[uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

[Zilla91]

What's this? A new software update but still no TeslaVision parking sensors? Well i, for one, am not surprised by this.

2023.6.1 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2023.6.1 includes Steering Wheel Heat, New Language Support, Dog Mode, Sentry Mode Live Camera Access, Trip Planner, Zoom Meetings, Apple Music, App Displays the Vehicle's Route, Manual App, Reverse Camera, Climate System Warming Up, Browser, Tire Pressure Card...

www.notateslaapp.com

 

[CWT3LR]

What's this? A new software update but still no TeslaVision parking sensors? Well i, for one, am not surprised by this.

2023.6.1 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2023.6.1 includes Steering Wheel Heat, New Language Support, Dog Mode, Sentry Mode Live Camera Access, Trip Planner, Zoom Meetings, Apple Music, App Displays the Vehicle's Route, Manual App, Reverse Camera, Climate System Warming Up, Browser, Tire Pressure Card...

www.notateslaapp.com

No update for USS removal. But strangely most of the update requires premium connectivity or stopping at a Supercharger. Elon trying to get ancillary revenues up a bit, clearly.

 

[Ohinever]

Had a ranger out last week. Reckons there is going to be a 3d parking view. Did admit that there is discussion amongst employees of a possible uss retrofit

 

[qwickshot]

What's this? A new software update but still no TeslaVision parking sensors? Well i, for one, am not surprised by this.

2023.6.1 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2023.6.1 includes Steering Wheel Heat, New Language Support, Dog Mode, Sentry Mode Live Camera Access, Trip Planner, Zoom Meetings, Apple Music, App Displays the Vehicle's Route, Manual App, Reverse Camera, Climate System Warming Up, Browser, Tire Pressure Card...

www.notateslaapp.com

We already have all of those features from earlier updates.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

Zoom meetings for the 3 and Y is new, but knowing that site they probably just got that bit wrong.

 

[qwickshot]

Zoom meetings for the 3 and Y is new, but knowing that site they probably just got that bit wrong.

Does anyone actually still use zoom regularly? Let alone want to use it in their car.

All the corporates I know use teams as it comes with O365.

 

[Tony Hoyle]

Never used it.. we use discord. There's zero appetite for a camera based meeting system at our place. When lockdown started we tried lots of stuff and there was massive pushback for anything involving cameras, so that left slack and discord, and slack wanted a lot of money..

Zoom would be what we'd use if it became necessary I think.

 

[SalisburySam]

What's this? A new software update but still no TeslaVision parking sensors? Well i, for one, am not surprised by this.

2023.6.1 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

Tesla software update 2023.6.1 includes Steering Wheel Heat, New Language Support, Dog Mode, Sentry Mode Live Camera Access, Trip Planner, Zoom Meetings, Apple Music, App Displays the Vehicle's Route, Manual App, Reverse Camera, Climate System Warming Up, Browser, Tire Pressure Card...

www.notateslaapp.com

Truly shocking, indeed. And well said: no surprise. It’s six months now right? So maybe not ”soon.” Or more likely, not “ever.”

 

[CWT3LR]

Truly shocking, indeed. And well said: no surprise. It’s six months now right? So maybe not ”soon.” Or more likely, not “ever.”

Elon Musk thinks like this: I have a bright idea how to save $100 a car.

 

[Frankb70]

Had a ranger out last week. Reckons there is going to be a 3d parking view. Did admit that there is discussion amongst employees of a possible uss retrofit

Chinever, Tesla have got to sort this problem out and fast, if its a retrofit so be it. Tesla have gone too far and cannot suppress or contain this adverse PR which is spreading giving free publicity to all the other EV manufacturers who are holding prices but not skimping on parts and equipment. Whilst Tesla is slashing prices and cutting equipment to save a few quid the brand is loosing its status as a luxury vehicle, soon I expect it will be buy one get one free.

 

[UrbanSplash]

Surely Tesla isn’t a luxury vehicle?! It’s certainly no BMW or Audi. Tesla simply isn’t interested in you as a customer… but it works. Top selling car in UK… look around, every other car is a white Tesla. Regarding removal of USS, it was what was best for them, not you, not your experience. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, just that’s what it is. Complaining or legal again regarding removal of USS is pointless in my view. Expending a load of effort… for what? Tesla don’t care. Best thing to do is simply never to buy one again if you’ve issue with them.

 

[SteveM3Perf]

We already have all of those features from earlier updates.

Hi,
Not all updates apply to all countries!
Zoom, Apple Music, sentry camera view etc. were rolled out a while back - but were not available in all regions (including where I live) - but it appears this update means they will now be available here - so good for me!
Back to topic - a total clusterf**k from Tesla on this one!
I don’t believe that Tesla will ever be able to adequately replace USS function with vision on these recently delivered cars - and I seriously think they will need a USS retrofit campaign for these cars.
Future & refreshed models will see HW4, camera on front bumper (or light housing) and radar - only then will they not need USS, in my opinion.
Cheers
Steve

 

[Mistake Not]

Hi,
Not all updates apply to all countries!
Zoom, Apple Music, sentry camera view etc. were rolled out a while back - but were not available in all regions (including where I live) - but it appears this update means they will now be available here - so good for me!
Back to topic - a total clusterf**k from Tesla on this one!
I don’t believe that Tesla will ever be able to adequately replace USS function with vision on these recently delivered cars - and I seriously think they will need a USS retrofit campaign for these cars.
Future & refreshed models will see HW4, camera on front bumper (or light housing) and radar - only then will they not need USS, in my opinion.
Cheers
Steve

Model s and x have just been released with HW4 and are now in the wild. They don’t have a front bumper camera (or similar) - same config as HW3 who knows the answer is.

 

[SteveM3Perf]

Model s and x have just been released with HW4 and are now in the wild. They don’t have a front bumper camera (or similar) - same config as HW3 who knows the answer is.

Then they will also need a retrofit campaign probably!

 

[CarpetSniffer]

Parking up my drive which has a brick wall in front, is quite annoying as I can't see how far away I am.

 

[WllXM]

Retrofit seen on some China models...

 

[CWT3LR]

Then they will also need a retrofit campaign probably!

S and X still have USS though? Even with HW 4?

Stand by for another huge U-turn, spun as Tesla solving the big issues relating to autonomous driving.

 

[qwickshot]

S and X still have USS though? Even with HW 4?

Stand by for another huge U-turn, spun as Tesla solving the big issues relating to autonomous driving.

For now, they have already said they will remove them in 2023.

 

[CWT3LR]

For now, they have already said they will remove them in 2023.

What Tesla say and what Tesla do are entirely separate things.

My guess is 3 and Y will see the return of USS when Tesla can't get a vision system to replicate them. Leaving about 8 months of cars with neither USS nor a functioning system based on vision. And then the class action suit will follow or some brave and principled soul like @RafP gets a win in court and make them retrofit or cough up.

 

[qwickshot]

What Tesla say and what Tesla do are entirely separate things.

My guess is 3 and Y will see the return of USS when Tesla can't get a vision system to replicate them. Leaving about 8 months of cars with neither USS nor a functioning system based on vision. And then the class action suit will follow or some brave and principled soul like @RafP gets a win in court and make them retrofit or cough up.

Based on what evidence?

All they have advertised is a park assist function, they stopped advertising ultrasonic sensors back in April 2022. Even if the replacement is rubbish and not as good as the old sensors, feature is delivered and fills the promise.

The issue you have with Tesla is that they (and many other car manufacturers) advertise functions, not specific hardware. That means they can change it through the lifecycle if the car at will. So it all rests on how long is reasonable for them to deliver the function they told you was ‘coming soon’ on or before when you took delivery.

The S/X sensors are probably a different part with a different supply chain and supplied on different commercial terms. You can’t just point to that and come to a conclusion.

They will not retrofit, it’s never going to happen.

I’ve seen RafP’s thread, how much do you honestly thing Tesla will be made to cough up?

It’s genuinely not a material function of the car which also has a bunch of cameras pointing out the back. For some extra context, in the pre WLTP days before car options were all bundled into packs, parking sensors was normally £200-£300 depending on the brand.

Even if they win, the total compensation they are likely to win will be in the hundreds. The total costs to Tesla will be £lol, but almost all of it will go to lawyers and not the person bringing the case.

There are no punitive damages to be had in the U.K., any damages have to be realistic and assessable. They may win but the judge deem there to be no damages, that’s also a possible outcome.

They could also lose and Tesla counter claim for their costs.