MXLRplus
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Glad Randy is OK. Cars are parts, and sometimes you break 'em and learn.
Looks like a solid effort by the team. Congrats to all.
Looks like a solid effort by the team. Congrats to all.
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You need suspension travel for Pike's Peak. Lowering a car too much for conditions can have consequences like this. The real world has bumps.
Wow, that is disappointing. But it was refreshing to hear Randy Pobst walk through it openly and take full responsibility for it. Even the most experienced of professionals can make mistakes, particularly when presented with a car as smooth and powerful as this one.
The real question for UP and Randy is how much suspension travel is optimal for this course. Clearly, for the line Randy steered, there wasn't nearly enough. So do they add height and travel, or do they take a slower but smoother line through that curve? I'm no racer, I'm sure that is the question that they are studying now.
Good luck to UP on trying to get the car back into driving form, it looks like a tall order to me.
Not from this year. That heave looks way less in this video.
I've looked at the video a couple of times and it looks to me like he was coming off the brake and just using regen at the point he hit the bump. I've said it in another thread - my experience with regen set high in track mode is that it can unsettle the rear of the car when entering a corner and I do wonder if that could have been a factor here, although the bump was obviously the main reason for loss of grip.That's from 2013 and the road was only paved in 2011, so it's gotten much worse since then. Seems like he was still braking when he hit the bump and the rear just didn't have the grip to live with it and broke loose?
I’d disagree. Travel did play a part of crash. See the video below and skip to 1:04. This is from another model 3 front camera going slow on the same turn 2 years ago. Add about another 60mph Going into that turn and yeah...the car will catch air. Driver error / speed was a big factor but not all of it.Unfortunately it was a mistake to go that fast on a first try. Happens. Sad.
I don't think that travel was an issue. Combination of fast (soft) compression and slow (hard) rebound with hard springs, comparatively. Regenerative braking that works when you don't want it. But the main thing is driver error and Randy said it - no good excuses. It's great that didn't happen at cliff side turn, but once in a while everybody mistakes.
Unfortunately it was a mistake to go that fast on a first try. Happens. Sad.
I’d disagree. Travel did play a part of crash. See the video below and skip to 1:04. This is from another model 3 front camera going slow on the same turn 2 years ago. Add about another 60mph Going into that turn and yeah...the car will catch air. Driver error / speed was a big factor but not all of it.
I'm pretty sure that was his 3rd run.
Nope first run on the upper section of the course and also first thing in the morning when it's all cold (keep in mind altitude) from the night before.
No way I’d have the nerve for that race. Driver or spectator.
My bad, thanks for correcting. I'm not familiar with Pike's, but just read about the 2 runs he made day prior to crash.
imagine what it was like when before it was paved! i might still have photos from some events there in the past
Looks like it’s not that bad of a hit. Battery looks ok in this video. I think with alot of money and overnight parts they have a chance to go at it again. I sure hope they fix it. So so close.
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