mtndrew1
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26.10 started wiping last Friday while I was three floors underground in my (very dry) office parking garage.
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v11.4.7 (2023.7.30) auto-wipers seem drastically worse
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Same here. They wipe intermittently with no rain and work poorly in rain. I had to turn to auto setting off.
But just to be clear, as soon as you enable autopilot, they will be reset to auto (as will auto high beams.) So if you don't want auto wipers, you basically can't use autopilot. That's a real problem when auto wipers don't work!
You can't turn them off while on AP/FSDb, but you can set them to any of the other "on" settings.
No need to Disagree my post since my main response was the SAME as yours that can't turn them off to the "...turn them off from the menus..." post. You did correct me that you can change the speed and that is sufficient with out the Disagree. Mine are dry wiping and there is no way to stop it.
Just for info since I haven't tried. Can you put them on slow/intermittent even in a torrential downpour and FSD Beta still stay engaged?
Yes, at least for me.
But that isn't what you said at all. You said you couldn't "change it from Auto no matter what you do." Which is 100% false.
Accuracy is better
FSD, AP require wipers to be usable as the cameras require a clear windshield. You can move the wiper setting from Auto to one of the hash speeds I. II. III. IIII
But cannot select off
The biggest problem I have is when running FSD or AP on a clear day and just watt to wash the windshield pushing in the left stalk, with washing done the wipers keep going
Now with dry wiping I am forced to turn FSD or AP off, then wipers off and then FSD AP back on
Not good
FSD, AP require wipers to be usable as the cameras require a clear windshield. You can move the wiper setting from Auto to one of the hash speeds I. II. III. IIII
But cannot select off
The biggest problem I have is when running FSD or AP on a clear day and just watt to wash the windshield pushing in the left stalk, with washing done the wipers keep going
Now with dry wiping I am forced to turn FSD or AP off, then wipers off and then FSD AP back on
Not good
Am I the only one who--despite loving my M3--finds the auto wipers issue hilariously sad? I mean, how do we have cars that **drive themselves** (sort of...errr...well better than any other consumer vehicle) but can't correctly determine if the windshield needs wiping? OK, I get it, Elon didn't want a proper sensor and insists we use cameras. Well, it's been at least 5 years for the elite Tesla programmers to figure this out for these types of Teslas (M3 and MY,) and it's still this inexcusably bad? How is that possible? Good lord!
Sorry. End of rant.
Sorry. End of rant.
I'm suspecting that there is either a defect in the glass of the windshield, small pits on the outside or contamination inside the windshield. My M3 has never had wiper issues and I'm on my third windshield. So, I don't believe this is a simple software issue. There must be something causing some glint in front of the lens for those who are having issues.
Has anyone who has, or had, wiper issues seen the behavior change for better or worse after a windshield replacement?
Has anyone who has, or had, wiper issues seen the behavior change for better or worse after a windshield replacement?
I don't think any software can fix the wipers, at least get them to the level of a dedicated sensor. The cameras aren't focused on the windshield, obviously. If they were good at detecting rain, Autopilot would be constantly degraded by rain drops obscuring its view of the road. They're able to shrug off rainfall and it's barely noticeable in the camera frame, by design. Even if you showed the camera feed to a human, they'd have trouble telling you if it's raining or not. The only thing visible is a subtle halo of a raindrop that looks just like dust or lens flare, and for fine droplets its basically invisible.
Small Rant -
Ver. 11.4.7 - I tried to use Autopilot on the way home from work yesterday, but I was denied. My windshield wiper fluid was low, not out, just low.
It was a completely sunny day, no rain and the windshield was clear.
So, I was denied because of the off chance I needed to use all of my wiper fluid, it would not let me use it.
How about disabling it when you need to wipe the window if there is no wiper fluid left?
The windshield wiper situation is a joke.
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Ver. 11.4.7 - I tried to use Autopilot on the way home from work yesterday, but I was denied. My windshield wiper fluid was low, not out, just low.
It was a completely sunny day, no rain and the windshield was clear.
So, I was denied because of the off chance I needed to use all of my wiper fluid, it would not let me use it.
How about disabling it when you need to wipe the window if there is no wiper fluid left?
The windshield wiper situation is a joke.
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Does it have a sensor to differentiate between low and empty? (I don't think it does, so for all it knows it is empty.)
Just 'upgraded' to 11.4.7. It hasn't rained yet so I don't know how the wipers will do in rain.
I do know that parked in the shade. in camp mode, the wipers were swiping every 20 minutes or so. No idea why. Don't care. Still hate the car. (And no, it wasn't my idea to install 11.4.7, Tesla SC downloaded the updates (we were on 11.4.2 which was working fine) and then, despite my warnings, he installed it.)
I do know that parked in the shade. in camp mode, the wipers were swiping every 20 minutes or so. No idea why. Don't care. Still hate the car. (And no, it wasn't my idea to install 11.4.7, Tesla SC downloaded the updates (we were on 11.4.2 which was working fine) and then, despite my warnings, he installed it.)
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