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Leafdriver333
Somewhat Active Member
I like this one. But you got to admit, the name Tesla doesn't sound American and those cars don't look anything like a GM car. It always strikes me how a Tesla stick out in the street.
Lhshockey24
Member
This isn’t dumb, but we have friends - they’re a whole family of gear heads. We brought our S over last year, everyone checking it out, looking in the frunk for an engine, all the usual questions, etc.
We drove them in it.
The next month...
They replaced their Ford Expedition with a Model 3 performance.
We drove them in it.
The next month...
They replaced their Ford Expedition with a Model 3 performance.
When I picked up my M3, The Tesla rep who demonstrated the car said: "When you close the frunk, you want to press directly on the T right in the middle" (The manual shows a big red square where the T is), "The window glass will break if you ever use the emergency door handle" (It doesn't) and when I asked if I could charge before I left.. "No, the super chargers over there are for the service center, I could go ask for you but those aren't for customers" (They were open to public).
I got 2 good ones to share:
Does tesla needs premium electricity to charge?
Would coal produced electricity clog the motor?
Does tesla needs premium electricity to charge?
Would coal produced electricity clog the motor?
jkoya
NA2 NSX
When we were at the Nissan dealer getting service done on our old Leaf, I heard a salesman tell a customer you can't drive electric cars in the rain because of the extreme risk of electrocution to the passengers.
Oh I might have to report you for busting my gut!
Omg
I just had someone ask how many rechargeable AA batteries it needs and isn’t it a pain to crawl under to change them every week.
I thought she was joking , but was dead serious.
Showed the charge port and she then thought that’s how I recharge those AA batteries.
Had to explain that it comes with an industrial grade battery installed.
Not wanna stereotype.... southern california blonde.
I just had someone ask how many rechargeable AA batteries it needs and isn’t it a pain to crawl under to change them every week.
I thought she was joking , but was dead serious.
Showed the charge port and she then thought that’s how I recharge those AA batteries.
Had to explain that it comes with an industrial grade battery installed.
Not wanna stereotype.... southern california blonde.
So yeah I was a little nervous, bought a software limited 60D, one year later after price reduction got the 75D,
was at like 45K when I did, range at 90% WAS 360 km. A year later was still 360, now at 102KM still 360. (as long as it's not like freezing).
So really not seeing ANY range degradation. I'm sure it will come, driving 40K+ a year, but not terribly worried. Even 10 Percent in 10 years seems unlikely now.
Jeez. Thanks for wasting all that time for me! Like the scene of a good crash, I just couldn't look away. In the past four years (far more often in the last 20 as EVs were involved) I've been in more of these sort of conversations than I can count. Part of the reason was my EVnut.com page that was quite popular back in the 2000's... folks would seek me out to ask my advice, and similar questions of "how many generators would it take to power my car while I'm driving!?" The one thing they all had in common was the accusation that I was going through life with blinders on, never thinking "outside the box."
Amazing to me is how so many smart folks were willing to chime in with *real* answers on that thread... seemingly without initially realizing where this was all headed.
Until that fateful question: I'm scared to ask what will be powering the generators?
When I've gone to EV events, this is what happens when I open the hood for folks to see the power train...
(I found them on Amazon. They're actually battery powered, too...)
jkoya
NA2 NSX
TT97
Active Member
Conversely, if you have solar, you can only drive during the day.
GHammer
Dark Star
She must have seen this commercialOmg
I just had someone ask how many rechargeable AA batteries it needs and isn’t it a pain to crawl under to change them every week.
I thought she was joking , but was dead serious.
Showed the charge port and she then thought that’s how I recharge those AA batteries.
Had to explain that it comes with an industrial grade battery installed.
Not wanna stereotype.... southern california blonde.
One more (sorry, I've been at this a long time!).
First the setup.... I bought my Toyota Rav4EV in 2002 from a local dealer (one of 25 dealers in the world that sold them!) About a year in, I was having trouble with the AC unit, and it turned out that the coolant level installed at the factory was not correct. So I drove it to the dealer where I purchased it, and an employee of that dealership (again... from where it was purchased, at a rare, EV-expert dealership) came over to chat while I waited in the service line. Of course this is pretty early on the modern "production" EV timeline.
him: How do you like it? Electric, right?
Me: Yup. It is my second EV so there aren't many surprises. While I miss my EV1, this car is much more refined and more practical. As a family car, it has been working great for us.
him: I know it is electric, but I've always wondered... what sort of mileage to you really get?
me: [pause - ??? - guessing at the right answer] Best range on one charge I've gotten is about 120 miles.
him: No, I know all that. I mean how many miles per gallon? I know it's good, but what do you really get? <implied conspiratorial wink>
me: ?? There's no engine. It doesn't use gas. It is electric.
him: I know. Everybody says it is electric, and nobody wants to admit that the mileage isn't as good as Toyota says.
me: It is electric. It has no gas tank. There's no way to use the gas even if it had a gas tank!
him: <comical, quizzical, incredulous look>
me: Seriously. No engine, no gas tank. It has batteries and an electric motor. I charge the batteries. There's no way to put gas in it.
him: I know it gets good gas mileage. I just wanted to know....
me: [seriously, I am NOT making this up!] It really has no way to burn gas. It has no gas tank... if it does have a gas tank, I haven't put gas in it since buying it. So far I've gone 11,000 miles on whatever was in it when I bought it.
At this point I invited him to actually FIND the gas tank filler. When the service guy came out and I parted ways with my new friend, I was left with the impression that he still didn't believe me... like I was being sarcastic. I think that I confirmed for him that the owners of Toyota Hybrids (note that was only the PRIUS at this point) would never admit that their gas mileage was less than the EPA rating.
First the setup.... I bought my Toyota Rav4EV in 2002 from a local dealer (one of 25 dealers in the world that sold them!) About a year in, I was having trouble with the AC unit, and it turned out that the coolant level installed at the factory was not correct. So I drove it to the dealer where I purchased it, and an employee of that dealership (again... from where it was purchased, at a rare, EV-expert dealership) came over to chat while I waited in the service line. Of course this is pretty early on the modern "production" EV timeline.
him: How do you like it? Electric, right?
Me: Yup. It is my second EV so there aren't many surprises. While I miss my EV1, this car is much more refined and more practical. As a family car, it has been working great for us.
him: I know it is electric, but I've always wondered... what sort of mileage to you really get?
me: [pause - ??? - guessing at the right answer] Best range on one charge I've gotten is about 120 miles.
him: No, I know all that. I mean how many miles per gallon? I know it's good, but what do you really get? <implied conspiratorial wink>
me: ?? There's no engine. It doesn't use gas. It is electric.
him: I know. Everybody says it is electric, and nobody wants to admit that the mileage isn't as good as Toyota says.
me: It is electric. It has no gas tank. There's no way to use the gas even if it had a gas tank!
him: <comical, quizzical, incredulous look>
me: Seriously. No engine, no gas tank. It has batteries and an electric motor. I charge the batteries. There's no way to put gas in it.
him: I know it gets good gas mileage. I just wanted to know....
me: [seriously, I am NOT making this up!] It really has no way to burn gas. It has no gas tank... if it does have a gas tank, I haven't put gas in it since buying it. So far I've gone 11,000 miles on whatever was in it when I bought it.
At this point I invited him to actually FIND the gas tank filler. When the service guy came out and I parted ways with my new friend, I was left with the impression that he still didn't believe me... like I was being sarcastic. I think that I confirmed for him that the owners of Toyota Hybrids (note that was only the PRIUS at this point) would never admit that their gas mileage was less than the EPA rating.
9erDog
Member
Here are my calculations for comparisons:
Drive 14,000 miles/year and 2 to 3 long trips per year.
In an ICE, at 30 mpg and between 15-16 gallons/tank = approximately 30 fill ups in a year. Driving from home to gas station and back (9 minutes each way = 18 minutes) plus 2 minutes to fill up (very optimistic as there is usually a wait of 10-15 minutes) = 20 minutes per fill up or a total of 10 hours used to fill up the car.
In my Model 3, I normally charge at home or work while sleeping or working. Time spent plugging in is negligible. I am conservatively spending 2 hours extra (round trip) per long trip - so could take 5 of these per year to be the same as ICE.
I'll just call it a wash in wasted time. Although many may perceive the extra hours spent on a long trip as more valuable than the 20 minutes spent on a regular basis as they forget about what they lost during the year.