What's your 90%?

[scaesare]

My replacement 85kWh D-rev pack was hitting 231 @ 90%. This morning it hit 232.

I wish there was some way to determine equivalent miles for this remanufactured pack. But given that it may now not have cells of the same age/mileage, that may be difficult to do.

My car just turned over 4yrs & 96K miles....

 

[mariopaol]

32k / 264

In my case, when new, my 90% was 250mi and now (after 10kmi) is 247mi.

So, your MS has an average loss of 0.47 mi each 1000mi whilst I have an average loss of 0.3 mi each 1000mi.

 

[Brass Guy]

100k mi yesterday. Still 221 at 90%. Consistent for quite some time. It's lower than most posts here, but I'm not worried about it.

 

[Brass Guy]

Correction, 222 this morning.
(1 min. too late to edit!)

 

[tskguy]

85kw 2014 Model S @ 42k mileage 235mi at 90% Seems pretty good!

 

[AmpedRealtor]

A variation of 2-3 miles is within a 1% margin of error. Not really something to even think about, really.

 

[wdolson]

A variation of 2-3 miles is within a 1% margin of error. Not really something to even think about, really.

I agree, it is picking nits, but it can be an entertaining psuedo hobby.

 

[SmartElectric]

92000 km = 57000 miles on our 2013 Model S 85 with "A" battery pack (original pack, limited to 90kW supercharging).

414 km = 257 miles at 100% charge on the weekend
compares to 425 km new, so less than 3% degradation after 4 years

We've not lost any rated range since we purchased the car as CPO in 2015. Nice!

 

[Polly Wog]

I just crossed the 40,000 mile mark, and my 90% is holding steady at 238-239 rated miles. I'm obviously thrilled that my 3+ year old "classic" Model S 85 has lost less than 1% of its range in that time. I think it really likes the tropical climate .

 

[mknox]

92000 km = 57000 miles on our 2013 Model S 85 with "A" battery pack (original pack, limited to 90kW supercharging).

414 km = 257 miles at 100% charge on the weekend
compares to 425 km new, so less than 3% degradation after 4 years

We've not lost any rated range since we purchased the car as CPO in 2015. Nice!

My latest stats (as we discussed yesterday):

2013 S85 (A-Pack) with 83,712 miles on the clock:

100% - 241 miles / 388 km
90% - 216 miles / 347 km

My 100% was 265 miles (exactly Tesla's "rated" range) when the car was new. So I've seen about 9% degradation over 4 1/2 years, and my 100% is almost exactly where my 90% used to be.

 

[Olle]

S75 90% 219 now. 9 months 19k miles on the odometer.
2012 P85 had 230 at 90% 47k miles when sold last june.

 

[Sparrow]

Back in October 2015 my 90% on my P85 had dropped to 205. Today I got 230 miles at 90% and for grins went all the way to 100% and got 253. This is on my November 2012 Signature Model S with the original A pack and 32,000 miles.

 

[jschwefel]

Back in October 2015 my 90% on my P85 had dropped to 205. Today I got 230 miles at 90% and for grins went all the way to 100% and got 253. This is on my November 2012 Signature Model S with the original A pack and 32,000 miles.

Can you tell us why this happened?

 

[Sparrow]

I can only speculate it was caused by a combination of range calibration and battery balancing issues. For the first few years I owned the car, I was mostly charging to 70%. Since I did not drive a lot of miles each day, I never went below 50% either. So over a period of time the car's range calculation may have gotten off. At the same time since I was not topping off the batteries were not balancing.

After discovering the low numbers in October of 2015, I decided to charge the car pretty regularly to 95%. I never let the car stand long at 95%. I was surprised to see 253 miles when I did this last range charge.

 

[jschwefel]

Thank you for the reply. I'll try something similar. I have been charging to 85% for a while, and I haven't charged above 90% for a long time. I've heard driving to below 10% then charging to 100% helps reset the BMS. We'll see. I have a 2012 P85 with a type A battery. Last summer my 90% was 226 miles; so far this summer and 20k miles later it's at 221. Seems a bit low perhaps, but not too far from the average based on what others report.

 

[smilepak]

My 90% of 2015 70D with 32k miles is approx 209 as of this morning

 

[suraj1194]

Almost 30K miles on my car in under a year. Originally, my 90% was 232 miles. I now get 225 miles. My 100% is 251 miles.

 

[St Charles]

2016 P90DL (Pre-refresh)

VIN 128,xxx
Mileage - 24,000mi
90% - 237 (originally 241)
100% - 264 (originally 270)
Battery - 1071394-00-A


Additional Notes:

I'm still on firmware 7.1. I leave the car in Ludicrous mode but rarely push the car passed 300kW. I normally charge the car to 80% on weekdays with average daily commute of 75 miles. Charging finishes within a half hour of when I leave each morning. Weekend charge is 60%. Average SoC is somewhere in the low 60% range.

 

[kev1n]

2012 P85 50k miles

90% 244 miles
100% 270 miles

new F pack battery put in late 2016

seems like a bit more than what most 85 owners got when new. thoughts?

 

[Brass Guy]

IIRC, mine said 272 the day I picked it up. I rarely range charged after that, maybe once in the 1st year. I also remember that I had 0 regeneration until I drove some. Now when I let a range charge finish (still rare) I have limited regen, not disabled.