I have found rated range (EPA) to be quite conservative and ideal miles just about right (slightly low on trips, almost perfect in town).In all seriousness the miles left is highly inaccurate and that is why I don't like it.
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I have found rated range (EPA) to be quite conservative and ideal miles just about right (slightly low on trips, almost perfect in town).In all seriousness the miles left is highly inaccurate and that is why I don't like it.
Range remaining = SoC * KIn all seriousness the miles left is highly inaccurate
Ok, thanks for the info. For whatever reason, I have found that the miles remaining has been accurate on our MX during various kinds of trips. I've tried both ways for several months, and the percent thing was ok. I see why some like it, but we preferred miles, so different stokes for different folks.Well ... Yes.
In all seriousness the miles left is highly inaccurate and that is why I don't like it. I think it can cause issues especially for people new to Tesla. @ZOMGVTEK explained it really well above why it EPA remaining miles just don't make a lot of sense.
Kinda odd they don't display both SOC and EPA miles left at the same time or SOC and some type of miles left based on the last 5/15/30
Sorry, my bad, brainfart. I was thinking about the consumption screen when I wrote that. The range number seems to be just the SOC%age multiplied by the EPA estimate. The point being that the SOC%age is correct for everyone's Model 3, while the range number is going to be right for probably 1% of Model 3 owners. I mean when the SOC is 50%, and the range number is 155 miles, how many people drive 155 miles?If you opt to show mileage vs %, the number of miles shown is NOT adjusted by your driving history. Many people have this misconception. That is WRONG and has been debunked dozens of times. It shows a remaining battery divided by a constant number of wh/mi.
Sorry, my bad, brainfart. I was thinking about the consumption screen when I wrote that. The range number seems to be just the SOC%age multiplied by the EPA estimate. The point being that the SOC%age is correct for everyone's Model 3, while the range number is going to be right for probably 1% of Model 3 owners. I mean when the SOC is 50%, and the range number is 155 miles, how many people drive 155 miles?
As my post said, one's preference probably depends upon what you used to use in your old car, but I find the range number to be less meaningful than the SOC %age. YMMV.
Exactly. That 155 miles range will be shown for ANY scenario
whether that is:
A. Next 100 miles has a 10,000 foot elevation gain
or
B. Next 100 miles has a 10,000 foot loss in elevation
However if you use the Energy tab and have your destination in the navigation it will give you a pretty accurate estimated arrival percentage
Oh that’s me. I stopped using the percentage myself.After having my Model 3 AWD for a few months and actually seeing how long the battery lasts, daily usage patterns, how fast I can supercharge, and that I can charge at 22 mi/hr at home make the range indicator pointless since I fill up when I sleep.
Just displaying the percentage reduces my range anxiety and degradation anxiety. It actually makes me feel like I can go further as well since percentage decreases slower than miles driven.
I’d recommend doing what I did if you experience any anxiety.
I wish there was an option for a regular "fuel" type gauge. Needle on a scale. It indicates full until 80% remaining and indicates empty with 20% remaining. Daily driving, you will never think about it again.
Think about the fuel gauge in your ICE car. You hop in, see the needle above half, and likely not look at it again for the rest of the day if just driving around town.
This might work if there were enough SC locations--at the current rate of about 100 per year, in about another twenty years for North America--but right now there are times when you need to know if you are really at 100% (or close to it. 90% sometimes just doesn't cut it. Once the many blanks are filled in so driving on state highways, rather than just Interstates, is possible, it's not really going to matter much which system is used.I'm never opposed to additional options, but I personally wouldn't go with this. For one, showing 'empty' when I still had 20% range would be terrifying to me. I have zero range anxiety, having come from a Nissan Leaf, and 20% is just under 50 miles on my SR+ (though I can easily get it to be decently over 50 if needed). That's the difference between having to hunt down a supercharger and just pull into my parking space at home and plug in without a worry.
For daily driving, I barely glance at the readout anyway. But on trips, having the precision of an EV battery measurement vs a fuel gauge makes a big difference. I routinely pull into Superchargers with 10% remaining on a road trip, and I've showed up on one occasion with just under 5%.
Now, maybe I'd modify your suggestion with 90% being 'Full' and 5-10% being 'Empty' (5% for LR, 10% for SR) and that might work for a lot of people coming from an ICE vehicle. For me, I'll always opt for additional precision.