Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
They must know that tweets by the CEO counts as official information. Reyes has a difficult job I'd imagine...
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This is interesting.
How do we find out whether or not Tesla investors have been alerted to the use of Twitter as an official source of company information or not?
Why are we so sure...
This is the only "positive" news here. Might just be a more general clean up since all thats left are more or less covered in official blogs etc.Not only those two tweets. There is another recent one about "Should mention that a battery pack upgrade is not coming soon for the Model S, but it obviously "will" happen long-term" also got removed. So I suspect it's due to some communication issue from Elon's tweets instead of specific P85D/S85D range concern.
This is the only "positive" news here. Might just be a more general clean up since all thats left are more or less covered in official blogs etc.
Maybe. But the most obvious scenario is their realization, in the last few days, that they can't get the P85d to come up to the range of the p85, that they have a big problem and that they're trying to limit the damage. Although this horse is out of the barn already.
So, what to do? I take delivery in a few days and I didn't sign up for a car with 15% less range than the p85.
Agree 100% this will be a PR-nightmare if they cant fix it soon. The press will jump all over this in full force.If this is what it ends up coming down to it will be a really big issue for Tesla. They will publicly have to eat their words and apologize and/or offer free returns and money back for all P85D buyers.
It will be an issue much worse than for example the "lease cost calculator" nonsense, the "300 mile range Model S", all the delays since with those things at least there was a way to interpret their statements so that they were still true(ish) but if the P85D never achieves the same(ish) range as a P85+ then the fact is that Elon and Tesla have lied. I so hope they fix this through software, and that it's fixed soon!
Agree 100% this will be a PR-nightmare if they cant fix it soon. The press will jump all over this in full force.
BUT what I just realised is that this could easily mean even more Model X delays which would be even worse for them. If they cant manage the efficiency of the dual motors on the S the penalty will be even greater on the X...
Now I am really glad the currency rates USD/NOK went bananas a few weeks ago and stopped me from buying into TSLA...
At the same time I keep thinking that idling the rear motor cant be that difficult can it!?
Correctness isn't the issue. It's about setting expectations, reliable and consistent communications, and letting your VP of comms do his job without interference. Rogue founders tend to be a problem as companies mature. Elon will have to stop this, or at least run everything though PR first (which will involve lawyers). He will be very unhappy with this. Such is life. He'll compromise.
Hmm... I cannot believe that he could do this and think no one would notice!? He cant possibly be that stupid....
I would think this leaves him open for all kinds of legal issues if done to hide his actions.
Hoping this is step one in clearing up comms here, but cannot shake the feeling of something being very fishy now...
Are you seriously trying to put a positive spin on _deleting_ tweets like this?Because it obviously had to be malicious, or underhanded, right?
If you are at a street corner yelling to announce a sale at a store, then you are notified their is no sale, you stop yelling.
No "hiding" is involved, you simply decide to stop putting out bad information.
The range thing is rather involved and there are still lots of questions.
I'll wait till I hear from one of the local owners that has gone one a trip long enough to test the full range.
Just proves they have no control over comms. They/Elon have done it before and keeps on doing it. They cant continue this way if they want to be taken seriously in the long run.This isn't the first time his tweets have been deleted. His tweet in mid-2013 promising "valet mode," and I'm sure others, have been deleted.
Valet Mode! (confirmed by Elon) - Page 7
Are you seriously trying to put a positive spin on _deleting_ tweets like this?
Please reread the quote from me that Zythryn quoted. I actually gave Elon the benefit of the doubt and was hoping this was a part of a clean up of communications. But that I have a bad feeling is of course obvious in that quote and later posts.I didn't see any 'positive spin' being put on it. Rather 'Z' was pointing out that automatically jumping to the worst possible conclusion (and thinking the worst of people and their intentions) right off the bat isn't perhaps the best way to go, nor the most accurate of the situation (or person/people). It's akin to the relationship cheater always looking for and assuming that the partner must also be cheating, when all the partner is doing is trying to organize a surprise birthday party.
Why not just simply wait and see what happens before making claims and getting all worked up? Is that so hard? So he deleted some tweets. Not a big deal. I can think of lots of non-nefarious reasons for doing it. As an example: Elon has said before that it can be difficult to get exacting information across with the character limitation of Twitter. He might have felt that his tweets opened the door for more questions than answers and has decided to tackle the whole thing via another blog.