FSD Beta 10.69

[thewishmaster]

I still feel empty inside after this update, not sure if it's the lack of FSDb improvement or the lack of Steam.

Apple Music does remind me that Apple might be making a car one day and the integration between my devices would be pretty awesome. I'm sure they won't drop the ball on adding an App Store either.

It’s the lack of v11 for me. Took a brief drive and 69.25 isn’t any different from 69.3.1. Still unusable on narrow streets. Also did a hard stop for “STOP” text on the ground, ignoring the “AHEAD” text next to it and the fact that the actual stop sign was another 50 feet away.

I didn’t spend much time with Apple Music but it reminded me a lot of the Spotify app with its random lag when switching tracks. Also I read that it uses 128kbps or lower quality and it definitely sounds like it - no sound quality advantage using the Tesla app. Back to bluetooth it is.

 

[Twiglett]

I don't know why, but I want to say "good boy" - oh wait, perhaps it's your avatar.

I do love the @Ramphex avatar

 

[bhakan]

Do you have Rainbow Road on or did someone slip me acid?

I toggled it to stay like that all the time in this software update and it stays that way while I was singing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds

 

[Ramphex]

It’s the lack of v11 for me. Took a brief drive and 69.25 isn’t any different from 69.3.1. Still unusable on narrow streets. Also did a hard stop for “STOP” text on the ground, ignoring the “AHEAD” text next to it and the fact that the actual stop sign was another 50 feet ahead.

I didn’t spend much time with Apple Music but it reminded me a lot of the Spotify app with its random lag when switching tracks. Also I read that it uses 128kbps or lower quality and it definitely sounds like it - no sound quality advantage using the Tesla app. Back to bluetooth it is.

They're too cheap to pay for the bandwidth we'd otherwise use if we streamed high quality tracks. Which brings up another interesting topic, the modems in these cars are 2G/3G/4G. Those bands are a dying breed (2G is gone, 3G is being phased out by AT&T, which is what our cars are on, as of 02/2022. 4G is not far behind.) I wonder how long our cars will be able to keep up with a quality cell connection without requiring a $2,000 modem upgrade for 5G and higher.

Difference in music tracks by sound quality

 

[jebinc]

I don't know why, but I want to say "good boy" - oh wait, perhaps it's your avatar.

Pip

 

[momo3605]

They're too cheap to pay for the bandwidth we'd otherwise use if we streamed high quality tracks. Which brings up another interesting topic, the modems in these cars are 2G/3G/4G. Those bands are a dying breed (2G is gone, 3G is being phased out by AT&T, which is what our cars are on, as of 02/2022. 4G is not far behind.) I wonder how long our cars will be able to keep up with a quality cell connection without requiring a $2,000 modem upgrade for 5G and higher.

Difference in music tracks by sound quality
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Is there any way to force HQ 256kbps through wifi perhaps?

 

[Ramphex]

Is there any way to force HQ 256kbps through wifi perhaps?

Not sure with Apple Music. Pretty sure that was the deal with Tidal, HQ on WiFi only, but that would require you to tether your phone every drive for HQ music.

Unless you drive around with a random hotspot in your car, that you pay another $10/month for. So $10/month to Tesla for "PREMIUM connectivity" and $10/month to a cell network for a hotspot just to hear quality music on the "premium audio system"

 

[Twiglett]

They're too cheap to pay for the bandwidth we'd otherwise use if we streamed high quality tracks. Which brings up another interesting topic, the modems in these cars are 2G/3G/4G. Those bands are a dying breed (2G is gone, 3G is being phased out by AT&T, which is what our cars are on, as of 02/2022. 4G is not far behind.) I wonder how long our cars will be able to keep up with a quality cell connection without requiring a $2,000 modem upgrade for 5G and higher.

Difference in music tracks by sound quality
View attachment 888029

I remember buying the 2G->3G upgrade for my LEAF, the telematics suddenly because almost usable, but still annoyingly slow.

After a quick drive to see what's new the holiday release does seem to add some needed polish to the user interface.
Audio controls and navigation are much better, I'm glad the cards are back, good to see homelink in a better place and of course having Apple Music is much better.

 

[Ramphex]

I remember buying the 2G->3G upgrade for my LEAF, the telematics suddenly because almost usable, but still annoyingly slow.

After a quick drive to see what's new the holiday release does seem to add some needed polish to the user interface.
Audio controls and navigation are much better, I'm glad the cards are back, good to see homelink in a better place and of course having Apple Music is much better.

UI updates are nice, can't deny that.

 

[momo3605]

Not sure with Apple Music. Pretty sure that was the deal with Tidal, HQ on WiFi only, but that would require you to tether your phone every drive for HQ music.

Unless you drive around with a random hotspot in your car, that you pay another $10/month for. So $10/month to Tesla for "PREMIUM connectivity" and $10/month to a cell network for a hotspot just to hear quality music on the "premium audio system"

Yea true, I tried hot spotting from my iPhone a few time but my phone felt like it was going to melt every time. Also the battery would drain even while being on the charging pad lol

 

[FSDtester#1]

Not sure with Apple Music. Pretty sure that was the deal with Tidal, HQ on WiFi only, but that would require you to tether your phone every drive for HQ music.

Unless you drive around with a random hotspot in your car, that you pay another $10/month for. So $10/month to Tesla for "PREMIUM connectivity" and $10/month to a cell network for a hotspot just to hear quality music on the "premium audio system"

Highest sound quality is Bluetooth or even better USB drive with saved music, if you have it.

 

[RowdyMY]

Is there any way to force HQ 256kbps through wifi perhaps?

Not sure with Apple Music. Pretty sure that was the deal with Tidal, HQ on WiFi only, but that would require you to tether your phone every drive for HQ music.

I subscribe to tidal from time to time during my high volume drive times (pun intended).

It does require wi-fi for their high fidelity tracks. Not going to lie, the 'playlist' nature of it isn't great and lack of a shuffle is downright awful. Reason I don't maintain a subscription full time.

It does bring the sound system ALIVE. Like sit out in the driveway in your car and sample tracks alive.

 

[Ramphex]

I subscribe to tidal from time to time during my high volume drive times (pun intended).

It does require wi-fi for their high fidelity tracks. Not going to lie, the 'playlist' nature of it isn't great and lack of a shuffle is downright awful. Reason I don't maintain a subscription full time.

It does bring the sound system ALIVE. Like sit out in the driveway in your car and sample tracks alive.

Yea, too bad we can't enjoy HQ music with just PAID PREMIUM CONNECTIVITY on our PREMIUM AUDIO SYSTEMS.

 

[FSDtester#1]

Yea, too bad we can't enjoy HQ music with just PAID PREMIUM CONNECTIVITY on our PREMIUM AUDIO SYSTEMS.

You could pull some of your vinyl out with a portable record player for that hi def sound

 

[Ramphex]

You could pull some of your vinyl out with a portable record player for that hi def sound

Not a bad idea... I'm going to try it.

 

[Ramphex]

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Not that bad, just can't let FSDb drive, tracks will be skipping like a motha.

 

[FSDtester#1]

You know who loves fsdb... kids... my kids and all their friends ask me all the time to show it to them. They think it's the coolest thing ever. They think the mistakes are funny. You know who doesn't like fsdb, the boss. Aka, wife.

 

[FSDtester#1]

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Not that bad, just can't let FSDb drive, tracks will be skipping like a motha.

You may be the first person ever to play a record inside a Tesla! I love it!

 

[Supcom]

You may be the first person ever to play a record inside a Tesla! I love it!

Elon, bring back the automotive record player. Highway HiFi!

 

[JulienW]

There has been no increase in 69.25 downloads in several hours.

I still say it's a conspericy and there's no such thing. All the "people" claiming to have 69.25 are bots. The bots first convince us of 69.25 then they take over the world. We must rebel and crush the bots calming there is a 69.25 before it is too late.