FSDtester#1
Craves Electrolytes
Like the people mover (Magic Kingdom) vs. Guardians of the Galaxy (Epcot)
Btw, my family and I are huge fans of roller coasters and Guardians is the best we have ever seen!
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FSD Beta 10.69
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Btw, my family and I are huge fans of roller coasters and Guardians is the best we have ever seen!
Meanwhile the Guardians ride at Disneyland is the old Tower of Terror. That was a do-once kinda ride for me. I prefer my insane accel in the horizontal plane.
And the drivers of cars around you. This is why I've stopped "testing" it on my morning commutes. Drivers are just in a different frame of mind at drivetime and less tolerant of "stupid drivers," which FSD beta still clearly is.
Wow.. I have never seen actual RED GREEN flickering at all.. I’ve seen RED and NOT RED, but if it actually thinks it SEES GREEN when there is no green to be SEEN that is bad.
I've had 10.69.3.1 and previous versions flicker between red and green at angled intersections where you can easily see a red and green light. (Here's one example of the left (straight) light is for the "through" road of this "T-intersection" and the right (right-only) light is for the "bottom" road of the T connected at maybe 45º angle.)
FSD Beta typically makes the correct decision for me but not always especially when facing the right-only light at night. So in general, unstable visualizations probably does mean the car is not sure, so be extra careful even if it often might do the right thing.
He is likely referring to the Guardians roller coaster only at Disney Epcot in Florida. That is the funnest roller coaster I have ever experienced, you have positive G's, Negative G's, Centrifugal G's, sometimes combined with each other in a dark environment with planets projected spinning around. The insane acceleration is in all planes! Think Space Mountain but brand new and the car you are in also rotates as it goes down the track in the dark.
I think this prior version of the conversation has been about the car wanting to go THROUGH A RED LIGHT, and for whatever reason it isn’t seeing a RED as STOP DONT GO, vs. for some reason seeing a GREEN for some reason, either a GREEN turn indicator (even though navigation is for straight/through and not turn) or a RTOG situation with indicator. Even that example you indicate above, IF the NAV and direction of travel was for forward/straight, the RIGHT TURN GREEN arrow should NOT be confusing to the FSDb or NAV or AP IMHO.
I have never seen in the FSDb at a multiple RED LIGHT intersection, the in car NAV/AP/FSDb display thinking that a RED LIGHT as indicated in reality, was actually GREEN and mis-interpreting that as GREEN for GO and proceeding into the intersection. I have had RED LIGHT intersections, and in the FSDb in car NAV/Screen indicate RED and NOT RED for 1 or SOME of the multiple lights at an intersection and for whatever reason interpreting that as OK TO GO THROUGH the intersection which would have resulted in calamity.
So I used the AP on the highway on the way home today, and this huge pile of sugar gave me a strike lol, I don’t even know what I did wrong. Just got a random large warning to grab the yoke and steer manually.
I should’ve reported it, oh wait the report button isn’t there anymore.
I guess the AP strike affects the FSD strike count haha.
I should’ve reported it, oh wait the report button isn’t there anymore.
I guess the AP strike affects the FSD strike count haha.
Got this at the end of the drive. What a pile of trash lol, I don’t even know why I bother turning it on, most of the time it either does something dumb or finds another way to be annoying.
Clearly the telemetry figured out something was wrong…. So it needs to tell me what was wrong, else it can frick off.
Clearly the telemetry figured out something was wrong…. So it needs to tell me what was wrong, else it can frick off.
Knightshade
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if you mean actual highway (ie where fsdb does not operate, only the legacy NoA code does) the most common reason for a lockout is you manually exceeding the max 85 mph speed limit
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
[EDIT: OpenAI ChatGPT, not an actual conversation]
However, as you know, it does not lead to a strike or the warning message above, under any circumstances.
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Didn’t do that, it was actually pretty much stop and go so we might’ve been doing 30 tops
bhakan
MSLR MSM/Blk/19/FSD, Ord 6/10/21, Del 2/20/22
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Just be sure to keep both hands on the wheel, applying torque (so unbalanced, as we all know how to do) in an appropriate direction at all times, and keep eyes on the road, looking straight ahead (only brief checks to either side are permitted). Definitely do not remove your hands from the yoke at any time.
If that's what you were already doing, I have no idea what happened.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Sure- but what he initially described was this:
" Just got a random large warning to grab the yoke and steer manually."
Which it DOES do if you exceed the AP speed limit.
His SECOND post showed the FSDb strike message... which was weird because he initially said it was on the highway when FSDb isn't operating.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Sure. His first post showed the strike though, so I knew it wasn't that.
I think it's well established at this point you can get strikes while on the highway when FSDb is not operating (AP is operating). But not from exceeding the speed limit! Makes sense.
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AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Anyway, perhaps Elon could help the people who are having difficulties with strikes?
[EDIT: OpenAI ChatGPT, not an actual conversation]
[EDIT: OpenAI ChatGPT, not an actual conversation]
Definitely I do not expect perfection. Hopefully they'll get the basics ironed out soon. Looking forward to seeing the progress at the end of 2023.
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FSDtester#1
Craves Electrolytes
I have done this multiple times. It does lock you out, but does not give you a strike.
You just have to park and get out, then back in an re-enable
Edit: Ninja'ed by @AlanSubie4Life
VanFriscia
Member
Forgive me if I'm missing something obvious, but is this an actual dialogue between Tesla owners and Musk? Where did it originate from?
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Sorry, I should have clarified (will edit), it's all the rage....It's from OpenAI ChatGPT.
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