FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

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Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

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[FSDtester#1]

Okay… I was going to talk about my update, or lack thereof, but we first have to discuss this screen shot. Is this an iPhone 4 or is your text set to 300% zoom?

For other OGs who didn’t get it, don’t feel too bad, I also didn’t get it. BUTTTTT as of March 26th the car was up to date. Still says that now, even after a restart

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Try my fix.. it worked for me

Oh, and Jeb is like 96 years old, so yeah, 300% zoom

 

[Ramphex]

Try my fix.. it worked for me

What was it again?

 

[Revolversoul]

Hehe…glad I am not the only one. Mine is showing up to date as of March 27.

 

[Ramphex]

Hehe…glad I am not the only one. Mine is showing up to date as of March 27.

Man, you made me think. Now I’m curious how many people are subjected to reading my nonsense without ever responding to this thread. I wish there was a post view count

 

[FSDtester#1]

What was it again?

In app, tap service, service request, driver assistance features, then other.
Then just type your software is stuck.
Then remote diagnostics begin.
Then message to soft reboot.

 

[kabin]

Must be a mass rollout as I just got my download and install notice - no YB’er or Charlatan @$$ Kiss here, either.

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Looking forward to hearing about your V11.3.4 shake down in the real thread.

 

[FSDtester#1]

Looking forward to hearing about your V11.3.4 shake down in the real thread.

Let me do it for him "Junk"....

 

[FSDtester#1]

I had to do it 3 times before it worked fyi...

 

[thewishmaster]

Burned my daily update check this morning … damn!

 

[Dennisis]

Being pushed I believe, shouldn’t need to check. And that software check time stamp usually updates on its own though sometimes there’s a delay.

 

[Ramphex]

I had to do it 3 times before it worked fyi...

Unable to do it. I already have a service appointment scheduled for 4/5 and it won’t let me try to create another one. Bleh.

 

[FSDtester#1]

Being pushed I believe, shouldn’t need to check. And that software check time stamp usually updates on its own though sometimes there’s a delay.

Agreed, just waiting works also

 

[FSDtester#1]

Agreed, just waiting works also

Nothing's worked for me and I'm not gonna burn my daily one. So I guess I'm gonna go find a Mustang or a Porsche 911 to smoke

 

[Ramphex]

Nothing's worked for me and I'm not gonna burn my daily one. So I guess I'm gonna go find a Mustang or a Porsche 911 to smoke

No one wants to race since I got the MS. When I had my Evo, everyone was always trying to race.... no fun

 

[Ramphex]

Nothing's worked for me and I'm not gonna burn my daily one. So I guess I'm gonna go find a Mustang or a Porsche 911 to smoke

89% are coming from 25.2.... we're just the bottom of the barrel I guess..

 

[bayareaever]

Had anyone without uss received v11 yet?

 

[jeremymc7]

Details should be on TeslaFi if you drill into the installed cars.

 

[Ramphex]

Details should be on TeslaFi if you drill into the installed cars.

I drilled into my car quite a bit, another unfinished project…. But we won’t talk about it

 

[Hayseed_MS]

I had to do it 3 times before it worked fyi...

Agreed, just waiting works also

Nothing's worked for me and I'm not gonna burn my daily one.

That's what she said...


I know the anticipation building for me with this one will probably leave me a little disappointed. However, it will still be great. I realize it is not perfect but the technology that they have already conquered is amazing to my animal brain.

 

[cbdoc]

Lately when they slow or stop pushing out updates there's a pending new revision ready in the FSD emission chamber. If so, hopefully they first push it to the majority stuck on 69.

Options are what I'm asking for. I rented a Sonata this week for work and the TACC left a tiny bit over a car length on the interstate. It was great.

It's fine for people who are overly cautious to have a choice of a further distance, but Mercedes, Hyundai, and Ford (3 that I've tried recently) have a choice for a shorter gap which mirrors many driver preferences on the road.

Edit: I could say you follow way too far, but this is subjective. It's nice that other manufacturers allow a choice for a shorter distance, even if those who are far more cautious don't want to utilize it. Tesla's previous 1 follow distance was very good. The 2 was worse, the Aggressive is more like 3 or 4 previously.

I’m convinced you can’t rely on vision only to be that close. LiDAR yes, but vision as it is implemented has terrible reaction time.