FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

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Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

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[WilliamG]

When I'm feeling less lazy, I'll go to get the car and retrieve the video of my Model S about to run a red light before I intervened (and saved the clip). It's pretty terrifying when the car highlights the red light in blue, so it recognizes that it is a red light, and still decides to run it.

 

[WilliamG]

Oh I love my car and the next car will probably be a Tesla as well (FSDj-less). Just hate the nonsense gimmicks and a ton of lies and broken promises by the charlatan.

I mostly love my car. Some annoyances, but for the most part... But yes, the gimmicks (Active Road Noise Reduction), lies (FSD/200mph/timeframes for just about anything...!) are just a continual annoyance.

 

[Ramphex]

Can we get some moderation in here? The 12-year--old mentality over the last 5 pages is really getting hard to wade through.

Oh no the insults, got us good!

 

[WilliamG]

Oh no the insults, got us good!

Right? A bit of pot, and some kettle, and some black, there.

 

[Ramphex]

Someone should make a FSD Positivity thread for those who only want to read that. Unfortunately this thread is for all experiences which includes bad ones.

 

[jabloomf1230]

Can we get some moderation in here? The 12-year--old mentality over the last 5 pages is really getting hard to wade through.

Use the block feature. You can block the original poster and block anyone who responds.

 

[WilliamG]

Of course it's not the Source of All Evil. In 2019 when I first bought FSD with my Model 3, I was pretty optimistic (or naive, take your pick). In 2020, I was still relatively optimistic. In 2021, my optimism faltered greatly. In 2022, ditto. In 2023, I'm just rolling my eyes. As has been stated many times, it would be one thing if FSD weren't treated like an actual, real, product you now pay FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for. Hopefully this thread serves as a warning to those not sure whether to click that buy button.

To add to this, I feel so much worse for those duped long before me. Just shameful.

 

[jebinc]

Not quite universally. You have been reading the last few pages of rebuttals, yes?

Do I have to?

 

[WilliamG]

To get back on topic, I do still think the one area where FSD did improve is lane changing on highways, with V11. That might be the biggest/most noticeable improvement yet. It's buttery smooth when the road is straight. Unfortunately it's less so on sweeping curves, but in general it's still much better with the lane changing. Less jerky/unsettling for passengers especially.

 

[jebinc]

Someone should make a FSD Positivity thread for those who only want to read that. Unfortunately this thread is for all experiences which includes bad ones.

No, the “Master thread for actual FSD experiences,” that I created two years ago is for that. It gets posts from members daily.

 

[Ramphex]

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Still waiting for the people who don’t like the #JunkTeam to justify to me how all of those actions are not junky.

 

[jebinc]

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Still waiting for the people who don’t like the #JunkTeam to justify to me how all of those actions are not junky.

“Don’t let the facts ruin a good story,”. Or, it’s related cousin, “The facts and data shall set you free”…

 

[Ramphex]

No, the “Master thread for actual FSD experiences,” that I created two years ago is for that. It gets posts from members daily.

Does that thread accept negative feedback? Or is it frowned upon to say anything bad about FSD just like it is in this thread?

 

[jebinc]

Does that thread accept negative feedback? Or is it frowned upon to say anything bad about FSD just like it is in this thread?

It’s an open discussion for “actual FSDb experiences,”. Good, bad and junky.

 

[jebinc]

It’s an open discussion for “actual FSDb experiences,”. Good, bad and junky.

Here it is for those interested.

Wiki - MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

22OCT21 Update: We are anticipating the release of v10.3 after midnight (PDT) tonight! Please keep your data current in the attached tracking spreadsheet ("S/S"). Please post your thoughts on v10.3, as either a new user, or one coming from v10.2. What improvements (or setbacks) have you...

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[Ramphex]

Here it is for those interested.

Wiki - MASTER THREAD: Actual FSD Beta downloads and experiences

22OCT21 Update: We are anticipating the release of v10.3 after midnight (PDT) tonight! Please keep your data current in the attached tracking spreadsheet ("S/S"). Please post your thoughts on v10.3, as either a new user, or one coming from v10.2. What improvements (or setbacks) have you...

teslamotorsclub.com

Posted in there, let’s see if someone will yell at me for being a negative Nancy.

 

[jebinc]

Posted in there, let’s see if someone will yell at me for being a negative Nancy.

I think you will find more “adult” actual FSDb experiences dialog there. This thread is “polluted” with a lot of “over the top fanboyism”.

 

[Dewg]

11.4.2, Chill Mode, MLC enabled
FSD Beta stopped at a red light, waited until it turned green and then proceeded. Amazing!

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

I’d like to see some videos of speedy self parking systems. I’ve only used Volvo’s and Teslas autopark, and they both are painfully slow, and pretty much suck. Tesla is better that what was offered from 2016-18 by Volvo, I can tell ya that. The Volvos would “park out” of a parallel park, which was kinda neat, I’ve yet to try parallel parking with Tesla, so that’s on me.

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

11.4.2, Chill Mode, MLC enabled
FSD Beta stopped at a red light, waited until it turned green and then proceeded. Amazing!

I had this behavior a few times today!