FSD Beta v11.x

powertoold · May 27, 2023

100% success UPLs:

jebinc · May 27, 2023

First 11.4.2 drive; no highway driving

Conditions:
No roundabouts, but prior problematic intersections
10 miles, round trip
Overcast
2021 MS Plaid

Summary: Overall Improvement from 11.3.6; more random blinkers, still ignores speed bumps/pot holes, a bit smoother and a bit more aggressive. More testing needed, prior to calling that “1-800” number…

rlsd · May 27, 2023

loquitur said:
The points raised are good -- so are there FSDb demo videos showing that this is what happens?

In cities there are plenty of situations where parked cars obscure things, as well as the bushes
mentioned. And, if this is a known design flaw, why haven't camera positions changed and/or
added with the HW4 refresh, good for millions of cars going forward? I'd think that we would
hear from some disgruntled ex-Tesla engineer that it is an oversight, er, "undersight" in this case.
At least it's covered in the FSDb notes up front, i.e. "be prepared to act immediately, especially
around blind corners".

I imagine that there is another, freaky way of ameliorating this as I have done a few times in
life -- high-speed reverse to undo overcreep into cross-traffic.

Like other people, I have thought that the car needs to have radars on the left and right side of the frunk. But then, are radars not blocked like cameras?
My crazy idea is to have retractable telescopic cameras on the car. The cameras can be raised higher and farther than other blocking objects. No need to creep.

Yelobird · May 27, 2023

rlsd said:
Like other people, I have thought that the car needs to have radars on the left and right side of the frunk. But then, are radars not blocked like cameras?
My crazy idea is to have retractable telescopic cameras on the car. The cameras can be raised higher and farther than other blocking objects. No need to creep.

Yeah, a big submarine telescope. That would solve everything.

JulienW · May 27, 2023

Yelobird said:
Yeah, a big submarine telescope. That would solve everything.

Think you mean periscope since a telescope would be of little benefit under water.

Yelobird · May 27, 2023

JulienW said:
Think you mean periscope since a telescope would be of little benefit under water.

Nor would the original suggestion

rlsd · May 27, 2023

JulienW said:
Think you mean periscope since a telescope would be of little benefit under water.

Don't laugh until you actually see one made by Tesla. Without it Tesla will not have level 5 self driving. It will look better than the ugly apparatus on the Waymo cars.

fasteddie7 · May 27, 2023

Just finished recording my route on HW4 with 11.4.2. It seems to perform about the same as 11.4.1. I had issues and disengagements in all of the same places that I had them before. The only difference that I noticed is that on unmarked roads it tends to hug the right side instead of the center and stopping for stop signs is significantly more abrupt.

Scott Chapman · May 27, 2023

rlsd said:
Like other people, I have thought that the car needs to have radars on the left and right side of the frunk. But then, are radars not blocked like cameras?
My crazy idea is to have retractable telescopic cameras on the car. The cameras can be raised higher and farther than other blocking objects. No need to creep.

I had this idea of a ball shaped camera on the end of a tether. The car could basically toss it around where ever it needed to be able to see, and reel it back in when it was ready to go.

Or maybe a yoyo-cam.

Hmmm... Anyone here a patent lawyer?

totoro722 · May 27, 2023

Scott Chapman said:
I had this idea of a ball shaped camera on the end of a tether. The car could basically toss it around where ever it needed to be able to see, and reel it back in when it was ready to go.

Or maybe a yoyo-cam.

Hmmm... Anyone here a patent lawyer?

The camera attachment that AI driver uses gives an amazing view of the car plus the surroundings. Not sure that it is practical, but wow the visibility is dramatic.

jebinc · May 27, 2023

Scott Chapman said:
I had this idea of a ball shaped camera on the end of a tether. The car could basically toss it around where ever it needed to be able to see, and reel it back in when it was ready to go.

Or maybe a yoyo-cam.

Hmmm... Anyone here a patent lawyer?

Nah, a hatch mounted drone that would fly around to scout out the area just in front of the planned route!

rlsd · May 27, 2023

jebinc said:
Nah, a hatc. mounted drone that would fly around to scout out the area just in front of the planned route!

You mean slithering hardware instead of slithering software?

Rocinante777 · May 27, 2023

Scott Chapman said:
I had this idea of a ball shaped camera on the end of a tether. The car could basically toss it around where ever it needed to be able to see, and reel it back in when it was ready to go.

Or maybe a yoyo-cam.

Hmmm... Anyone here a patent lawyer?

A tethered drone. Or a kite.

jebinc · May 27, 2023

Rocinante777 said:
A tethered drone. Or a kite.

Tether not needed. It has a borg like charging dock.

FSDtester#1 · May 27, 2023

PACEMD said:
You obviously haven't met my wife..............

Sure we have, she said to say "Hi"

Hayseed_MS · May 27, 2023

JHCCAZ said:
My wife asked me if I wanted to go shopping with her, but I said I was waiting for a push. She gave me a very strange look and wient out the door

Maybe tell her you are waiting for a tug and not a push?

Ramphex · May 27, 2023

Went to turn on the HVAC before a last second drive to Best Buy, realized the car was downloading the latest junk without asking me. Tisk tisk, guess I’ll install while at Best Buy and test on the drive back.

FSDtester#1 said:
So you can get it and then take up the next 100 pages complaining ...
At least with this release you will get your AM radio you've been wanting

I got over that, remember, I got my record player in there now.

FSDtester#1 · May 27, 2023

Ramphex said:
Went to turn on the HVAC before a last second drive to Best Buy, realized the car was downloading the latest junk without asking me. Tisk tisk, guess I’ll install while at Best Buy and test on the drive back.

I got over that, remember, I got my record player in there now.

Btw, he is not joking... @Ramphex actually has a record player he can put in his Tesla!

FSDtester#1 · May 27, 2023

Ramphex said:
Went to turn on the HVAC before a last second drive to Best Buy, realized the car was downloading the latest junk without asking me. Tisk tisk, guess I’ll install while at Best Buy and test on the drive back.

I got over that, remember, I got my record player in there now.

And my push just happened... and no I am not in the bathroom

LowlyOilBurner · May 27, 2023

fasteddie7 said:
Just finished recording my route on HW4 with 11.4.2. It seems to perform about the same as 11.4.1. I had issues and disengagements in all of the same places that I had them before. The only difference that I noticed is that on unmarked roads it tends to hug the right side instead of the center and stopping for stop signs is significantly more abrupt.

That’s weird. I’m so far having the exact opposite. Car is very centered in unmarked roads, whereas it used to hug the right side on 11.3.2~>11.3.6. Same here with screwups on my few short drives I did this morning (stopping mid turn making a right turn). Again, I’ll know better how this is in a week of 100-200mile drives per day for work. Next two days are boats, booze and bonfires.

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