grichard
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Maybe it will be more advanced and sophisticated than half the cars people are driving, but I doubt it will be more advanced and sophisticated than half the cars people are riding in.
That was pretty stylish!
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Maybe it will be more advanced and sophisticated than half the cars people are driving, but I doubt it will be more advanced and sophisticated than half the cars people are riding in.
People who think they are going to be happy with their Tesla many years in the future are (wrongly, in my opinion) thinking of it as a car. It's not. It's a gadget. Do any of you still use your original 2007 iPhone? I have one. We call it the iBrick and use it as an alarm clock. I believe our current cars will be similarly hopelessly slow and obsolete a few years down the road.
Yes, you can buy an LTE upgrade, but most hardware upgrades won't be that self-contained or simple. You can't go D. You won't be able to get the new sensor suite when it comes out, so self-driving will never happen. When the crowded supercharger protocol becomes "just park your car nearby and go about your business; when your turn comes it will drive over, hook itself to the charger, and re-park itself when done" you'll still be the one dealing with your car manually.
People just don't keep their gadgets that long because they become better so fast. This car-like gadget will be no different.
Sorry, but our eight year old Model S's won't be worth much more than $20K at best, probably less considering the relatively inexpensive Model 3 at that time will be in almost every way a better car. So replacement won't be an issue for all the people who have currently purchased vehicles on the order of $100K.
Oh, yeah. You'll certainly be wanting one of those cheaper, lighter, higher capacity battery packs too. Your old battery pack will have degraded somewhat. But the replacement will be almost as much as the Blue Book value of the car. So really the only sensible way to get your new battery is to get rid of the old car and get a new one.
Is wrong to say the LTE service in your Model S is free for 4 years. The correct statement is that the service is "prepaid." Same for Supercharging.
I would also guestimate that > 90% of cars that are sold will be bought by other people who want to actually drive them, as opposed to just using them for bonfires or lawn ornaments.
Mr Musk claims autonomous vehicles will be ready in 2 years. That seems rather optimistic to me. But in 10 years, cars that you must manually drive could very well be obsolete.
Unless they've changed it, map updates can only come over wifiMap updates is not the same as connectivity.
I stretched to buy this car, I'm not going to be incurring a $40,000+ loss just to be able to get some new technology.
When Musk says 2 years, that actually means 10 years.
I hesitate to ever say "it's not the money" (because it's almost ALWAYS the money)
Back on topic: the first Model S was delivered June 2012, 3.5 years ago. So we will soon find out what happens after the 4 free years is up. Presumably Tesla will broadcast its intentions at least a few months prior to June 2016...
Actually we find out in exactly 2 years as the 4 years starts as of January 2014 for early cars
Since we're talking LTE and in turn AT&T how do things fair with the connectivity for international roaming? I'm just a few hours away from Canada so if I drive up there does all of the internet functionality work as expected? If I stayed up there for a month there would be some good roaming fees that would come up I'm sure. At any point does Tesla come back and send you a nastygram?
Two words that probably don't belong in the same sentenceSince we're talking LTE and in turn AT&T how do things fair with the connectivity for international roaming?
Unless they've changed it, map updates can only come over wifi
Maps are slightly faster - I upgraded my P85D from 3G to LTE a few months ago. The browser is still painfully slow - they really need to fix that. Surely they can find a faster OS browser that they could use, or high a summer student to improve the browser.Is browser speed and map reload substantially faster for LTE v. 3G? I use the maps and stream frequently, but browsing is something I estimate a few times per month.
Shhhhhhhh!! 4.5 years, no word.Has anyone on here got a notice that their 4 years of free service is about to end?
The original multi-year deal was announced in January 2013 so there should be a few. I do not see any pricing for Tesla or any mention of them on the AT&T website. They did have a few references to "Tesla" in their page source code but that could be unrelated.
Source? My impression was always that it was 4 yrs from date of delivery.The four years start Jan 2014
People who think they are going to be happy with their Tesla many years in the future are (wrongly, in my opinion) thinking of it as a car. It's not. It's a gadget. Do any of you still use your original 2007 iPhone? I have one. We call it the iBrick and use it as an alarm clock. I believe our current cars will be similarly hopelessly slow and obsolete a few years down the road.
Yes, you can buy an LTE upgrade, but most hardware upgrades won't be that self-contained or simple. You can't go D. You won't be able to get the new sensor suite when it comes out, so self-driving will never happen. When the crowded supercharger protocol becomes "just park your car nearby and go about your business; when your turn comes it will drive over, hook itself to the charger, and re-park itself when done" you'll still be the one dealing with your car manually.
People just don't keep their gadgets that long because they become better so fast. This car-like gadget will be no different.
Source was Tesla but I can't find it now. It was four years from the date of the announcement that they were giving 4 years free, and that announcement didn't come until long after my car was delivered in July 2013, so Jan. 2014 sounds about right.Source? My impression was always that it was 4 yrs from date of delivery.