Super human capability- disengagement every one mileThis is the translation from Elonish Muskish to English.
Will Definitely happen : 90%
Will happen / Yes : 75%
Probable : 60%
Possible : 50%
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Super human capability- disengagement every one mileThis is the translation from Elonish Muskish to English.
Will Definitely happen : 90%
Will happen / Yes : 75%
Probable : 60%
Possible : 50%
I have noticed the lack of enhanced visualizations after disengagement... mentioned it in a post buried around fifty pages back. I haven't really chased it as far as you have, though, as I've pretty much given up on the current FSD version. I might have to do a bit more exploring, though, as your post has my interest piqued!Has anyone else noticed that when FSD beta is enabled, and you apply enough force to disengage auto steer (but TACC is still enabled), the visualization switches back to the old production style (no more red, yellow, blue-green/gray jumping decision path, etc.) until you fully disengage FSD beta using the up-stalk or brake pedal? I haven’t stayed on TACC for long enough after that to see what stack it’s using for speed control. I.E. - what happens when you approach a stoplight in that state? Does it brake really late and hard like production AP stoplight control or does it gradually and more naturally slow down like FSD beta does?
Same.some of my AP snapshots are self explanatory, so I haven't been accompanying them by emails.
They use OSM for turn-by-turn navigation, Valhalla is the routing engine and its built on top of OSM. GitHub - valhalla/valhalla: Open Source Routing Engine for OpenStreetMap
Good call. They even maintain a fork of Valhalla in their organizational Github account: GitHub - teslamotors/valhalla
The navigation data and routing engine are provided by another software company, MapBox, which has been working on these projects for about a decade now.
In 2018, MapBox acquired a routing engine named 'Vallhalla', which is now part of the core API MapBox provides to users and enterprise clients like Tesla, Facebook, and many more. MapBox claims they gather data from millions of devices that their application is a part of and they reach at least 600 million people a month.
Even though my neighborhood has posted 15 mph signs, FSD still wants to blow through it at 29 (25mph+offset). I'll see what it says on OSM.I've noticed that 15mph signs are sometimes detected and visualized when OSM has maxspeed data. I haven't found a 15mph sign that wasn't already OSM mapped yet, but I'll keep looking. But even then, it looks like it's mostly vision based and sometimes the neural networks don't give high enough confidence to render:
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I also tested with OSM mapped 20mph and 5mph signs (the various 10mph OSM mapped ones I checked didn't actually have a posted speed limit sign):
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A few interesting things about the 20mph sign:
- the neural network actually predicted it to be 30mph and adjusted speed up on the 1st pass (photo from a 2nd pass)
- when initially turning onto this road, the car's map data knew it was 20mph even though OSM doesn't have a speed limit for that segment
- yet another observation that maybe only Smart Summon uses OSM
- another speed limit sign on the street was initially rendered on the visualization but was removed as I got closer
- probably thought it was a 30mph sign then confidence dropped below some threshold
I just changed the charging from 48 amps to 10.4 amps on the app to hopefully bring it to all of us!Now everyone is waiting for 10.4.
Then we can all redo our test routes and post here annoyed that our pet peeves haven't improved.
EVERY single time I'm crossing 17th street bridge in the left lane with a left turn on Market St coming up. At about the end of the blue line it ALWAYS decides to change into the right lane (which is also going through a traffic light intersection) and immediately has to change back into the left lane to make the turn (blue line going down). Very annoying and obtuse behavior. But at least I get to look like an idiot to everyone around me.10:30 - good example of Beta’s bewildering decision to change lanes away from an upcoming turn. Super annoying.
Check in TomTom map.EVERY single time I'm crossing 17th street bridge in the left lane with a left turn on Market St coming up. At about the end of the blue line it ALWAYS decides to change into the right lane (which is also going through a traffic light intersection) and immediately has to change back into the left lane to make the turn (blue line going down). Very annoying and obtuse behavior. But at least I get to look like an idiot to everyone around me.
Also another problem this street has a BUS lane on the right and Tesla often decides to turn into it and then realizes it shouldn't and then turn back out. So it will often "weave" back and forth across all 3 lanes.
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Curiously, OSM is missing `lanes` data for this middle segment (but has the data for adjacent segments) right where you've indicated the end of the blue line:At about the end of the blue line it ALWAYS decides to change into the right lane
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@JulienW Good case where you can change the middle section also to 3 lanes and see if the behavior improves after a while.Curiously, OSM is missing `lanes` data for this middle segment (but has the data for adjacent segments) right where you've indicated the end of the blue line:
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Which driving profile are you using? I started in chill but switching to average today to see the difference.First Drive. 20 miles (10 miles each way) on 2 lane Kentucky roads - one with no lines. At least 5 times I had to clip video for bad behavior. Two phantom braking incidents. Two Take Control Immediately (with Emergency Beeps and braking) phantom warnings. Trying to pass cars stopping at a stop sign on road with no lines. Driving down the center of the road with no lines, me swerving to avoid oncoming cars. It is exciting driving with the FSD, because it doesn't work. I'll see how it does in town and on the Interstate. Disappointed at the lack of progress from what I had before. I had stopped using that because it didn't work. I'll continue testing so Tesla can start programming for our country roads, because not much has been done so far. Initial 20 mile results are not encouraging.
I'm kind of surprised that rolling stops are built in as the default. But I guess being designed in California explains a lot.For the first few miles, I was in average, but noticed it was not completely stopping when it should, so switched to chill. You can't do rolling stops here.
This is such an honest, genuine and ACCURATE representation of what the current ”build” can produce. Throw it in a more urban environment and one can easily see how it can certainly break down further. Today I had a journey to the city (san Franciso) and made EVERY effort to use it as much as I could. From a near crash merging onto the main highway (280) which was a complete and epic fail In front of a SEMI (the car didn’t attempt to accelerate or de-celerate at ALL to try and manage a simple merge) to NOT navigating around a single road obstacle, or being able to adjust when other drivers made some turn signal LESS crazy Ivan moves into my lane in the city. I think on the inbound I dis-engaged over 25 times, but kept pushing to re-engage and see what the car would do. One time, worst scemario (I guess AS IF trying to slowly merge onto a main highway in FRONT OF A SEMI AT THE SAME SPEED wasn’t enough) the car seemed to have interpreted a stop LIGHT as a stop SIGN and after a painfully long stop/start/stop up to the line, the car decided to enter the integration at a RED LIGHT which required me to full brake peddle and call it a day.
10:30 - good example of Beta’s bewildering decision to change lanes away from an upcoming turn. Super annoying.