MCU2 - Retrofit

[kingjamez]

I am currently a Model S 100D owner who tool delivery June 2017. If Tesla refuse to upgrade for a reasonable cost, then it is very clear indication why someone should never buy and own a vehicle. There should be a way to upgrade pieces of a tech product without throwing away the entire thing. This is another straw for on-demand / rent / pay as you go.

Fingers crossed that they will allow an upgrade, and not charge and arm and leg for it.

You got exactly what you thought you were getting when you bought the car. Why would you throw it away? If you buy a Tesla expecting it to be the top of the line forever, then you didn't do your research. Tesla makes changes all the time. Their policy is that if you were satisfied with what you got when you bought it, you should stay satisfied.

-Jim

 

[ABC2D]

I guess I will hold off on ordering my 2 M3 reservations ready to configure, until any hardwae changes needed are made.

by that logic you'll never buy - they always changing stuff....

 

[berserk_sun]

That's not correct. @verygreen said that APE has its own maps, independent from what you see on the MCU.

I'd like to see the details, technically, it doesn't make sense to have redundant system. AP is mostly about pattern recognition and input/output meta data about the environment, if it needs to link the meta data to the GPS data, it should be the same data feeds MCU system.
Also we have to ask the question that why Tesla want to reinvent the wheel to make their own map system? It for sure will be far behind Google map at beginning. The answer is that the Tesla map is required for supporting autonomous driving.

The next riddle is the timing. In order to change the CPU architecture, Tesla have to spend a lot of software development resource into the firmware, that's why the new MCU is running 2018.6.50. We know the reason Model 3 MCU was lacking a lot of features because the same reason. Unless there is good enough reason, why Tesla doing MCU upgrade now (means the investment was planned long ahead), instead of spending their efforts on quickly finishing the MCU firmware on Model 3.

 

[Amit519]

by that logic you'll never buy - they always changing stuff....

The M3 has had qality issues from the get go. Just skeptical now after giving Tesla over $270K for the 2 MS. I don't know then what to think of doing with my Roadster 2020 base resrvation.

 

[lunitiks]

We need more info on the connectors on the backside of MCU2!

They have been changed before:

 

[lunitiks]

BTW, anyone with a 2.5 car that can help me out a bit? I need some HW info if you have a spare moment. Plz PM me!

 

[berserk_sun]

We need more info on the connectors on the backside of MCU2!

They have been changed before:

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Which one is new MCU?

 

[lunitiks]

Which one is new MCU?

None of them. They're both older MCUs, pics from eBay. We have no pics of MCU2 yet - which is what we need

 

[berserk_sun]

None of them. They're both older MCUs, pics from eBay. We have no pics of MCU2 yet - which is what we need

Ok, I think it's going to take awhile.

I don't think technically there is any valid concern about retrofitting.

 

[viper2ko]

None of them. They're both older MCUs, pics from eBay. We have no pics of MCU2 yet - which is what we need

Check here, this is OP from reddit who posted pics of a teardown of the MCU2

AP 2.5 Hardware Teardown and Comparison • r/teslamotors

 

[berserk_sun]

Check here, this is OP from reddit who posted pics of a teardown of the MCU2

AP 2.5 Hardware Teardown and Comparison • r/teslamotors

Unless I missed, this is about AP2.5 vs 2,0, not new MCU

 

[lunitiks]

Check here, this is OP from reddit who posted pics of a teardown of the MCU2

AP 2.5 Hardware Teardown and Comparison • r/teslamotors

Yes but that's ape, not mcu2 ...

 

[viper2ko]

Yes but that's ape, not mcu2 ...

OP was confused. This was the guy with the first video of the new MCU. His title is misleading. He thought AP and MCU and combined and that the new AP is called AP 2.5. But it is a teardown of the new MCU. Check the picture album

 

[lunitiks]

OP was confused. This was the guy with the first video of the new MCU. His title is misleading. He thought AP and MCU and combined and that the new AP is called AP 2.5. But it is a teardown of the new MCU. Check the picture album

You're confused. The album is clearly APE 2.5, not MCU2.

 

[lunitiks]

(Well actually he mixed a video of MCU2 and one image of the MCU2 side in this album. But all the actual teardown images are of the autopilot computer)

 

[Snowstorm]

I've got bad news from my local SC near Toronto Canada.

We received notice from head office that there is no plans to replace any touchscreens with the new components that recently entered production. If your vehicle needs any service on the touchscreen (inside warranty or out), your touchscreen will be replaced with the original compatible hardware that it was delivered it.

That is disappointing as I would hope there would at least be a paid upgrade option. I have asked them whether it is possible to purchase that new MCU independent of any service work.

I hope Tesla changes their position on this.

 

[lunitiks]

Hmmm... The (single) photo that "MaxKW" did take of MCU2 - while I wish it was better - is interesting.

I'm talking about this photo:

If I understand his picture correctly, the connectors have absolutely changed since AP2.0. Comparison:

 

[viper2ko]

I've got bad news from my local SC near Toronto Canada.

We received notice from head office that there is no plans to replace any touchscreens with the new components that recently entered production. If your vehicle needs any service on the touchscreen (inside warranty or out), your touchscreen will be replaced with the original compatible hardware that it was delivered it.

That is disappointing as I would hope there would at least be a paid upgrade option. I have asked them whether it is possible to purchase that new MCU independent of any service work.

I hope Tesla changes their position on this.

Absolute gut punch. Can we tweetstorm Elon and get this addressed

 

[CarbonFree]

Absolute gut punch. Can we tweetstorm Elon and get this addressed

Your car just lost several thousand dollars overnight. As did the entirety of Tesla's CPO fleet.

 

[ABC2D]

Your car just lost several thousand dollars overnight. As did the entirety of Tesla's CPO fleet.

I disagree because the user base here, on TMC, is a minority - the vast majority of Tesla owners have no clue and no interest as even with the old MCU, the car is great! Ghosting - what ghosting? Dont charge to 100% all the time - why? Slow MCU - what's MCU?