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Ribeyesteak
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You know - it wouldn't be shocking if Tesla decided to give Lucid a massive "**** YOU" straight to their faces Thursday night with the #FirstTo500 *sugar* they were trying. I would LOVE to see them do it!
For reals, though. If the Plaid has the structural 4680 battery pack and gets 500+ miles of range, I'm definitely upgrading as that is worth it to me.
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T-Racer
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In other news it is expected to be sunny in California today and the price of tea is on the rise in China.
If true (cancellation), I’m quite pissed off. I turned down the Plaid+ to Plaid offer and was looking forward to the 4680 range. I’m not sure if I’ll just skip current refresh until they have the new batteries. Then again, Musk said that would be years from now. Man, I’m a big fan and long time shareholder, but I’m not a happy camper today.
Instead of Tweeting this nonsense, the SAs could have simply told us this when they called. It’s been one mucked up release of the refresh for sure.
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sflgator
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Yeah, I'm wondering about them canceling the Plaid+ that was supposed to have > 500 mi max battery range and cost more $$ than the Plaid. Certainly I wouldn't complain if they figured a way to get > 450 mi. of of the Plaid, but I doubt it...don't think they're using the newer batteries in the Plaid at this time, although I wouldn't doubt if they stuffed them into the 2022 Plaid next year and increased the price $10k-$20k to get > 500 mi. on next year's model. They MUST compete with Lucid...the Lucid Air GT will get > 500 mi. max battery range with their dual-motor, 800 HP/TQ Air GT.
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TheWalkingDad
Cybertruck 23' or bust.
You know - it wouldn't be shocking if Tesla decided to give Lucid a massive "**** YOU" straight to their faces Thursday night with the #FirstTo500 *sugar* they were trying. I would LOVE to see them do it and all the Plaid owners could justify their purchase finally!
For reals, though. If the Plaid has the structural 4680 battery pack and gets 500+ miles of range, I'm definitely upgrading as that is worth it to me.
As much as I would love for this to be true, I doubt it. The 4680 has a much larger form factor than the 18650 that were announced to go into both the LR and Plaid. This would require a different battery frame design than the 18650.
Could not be happier for you!! It’s like we’re all getting your car Thursday!!!
sflgator
Active Member
I agree with you, but how much you want to bet that the SA's knew nothing and Elon literally just figured things out yesterday?!?!
Yes and no. They are much larger, but also much more energy dense. I'm not going to pretend to be a structural engineer - but based on the battery day presentation - they shouldn't have an issue sticking them in there. The Model Y is getting them in less than 6 months. They are probably only making ~10k Plaid all year, I'm sure they have the batteries to do it from the pilot plant.
@Ohmster - I'm sure youll have the opportunity after the event to get in line for a Plaid, it doesn't seem like the wait time is that long.
Dang and with a 1150 RN. Congrats. Hopefully us LR peeps won't be stranded for months seeing all the awesomeness of Plaids being out there
Well, I will cancel my LR reservation now, so everyone there moved up a spot
Ribeyesteak
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I wouldn’t get too excited about 4680 cells in Plaid deliveries this month. Elon’s comments on the April earnings call: “We’re not quite at the point where we think (4680) cells are reliable enough to be shipped in cars.”
And that’s coming from a guy who’s pretty darn optimistic about his products.
And that’s coming from a guy who’s pretty darn optimistic about his products.
sflgator
Active Member
Exactly; my guess is these new batteries will go into next year's Plaid (with a much higher price for the 2022 or 2023 Plaid), CT, and Semi. We'll see if they go into the 2022 MY or not.
Off topic: At this point I wonder if tri-motor cybertruck is next to get delayed
Back on topic: This means some cancellations are coming, with others moving up in line
Back on topic: This means some cancellations are coming, with others moving up in line
I mean who knows - that's been the rumor now for a few weeks though.
However - IF they really are planning on the first cars coming out of Texas late this year (Model Y) with the 4680s and structural battery pack...hmmm, I just don't see how they sell people a $120K car that once again, has worse tech.
4680s are more than just more range, its also much better charging, longer battery life and better performance.
It was leaked months ago that they (both LR and Plaid) Model S will feature a front and rear megacasting as well. The structural battery pack is sort of the last piece of the pie there.
This makes me feel a little better about my plaid order. I have been teetering between ordering a LR with the looming thought of the plus next year pushing my plaid out of relevance (the forgotten middle child)
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