Do you have a scorecard of what's been fixed and actually works, and what that tried to fix that will probably never work? Also, are you sending that bastard back (and getting your money back)?
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Do you have a scorecard of what's been fixed and actually works, and what that tried to fix that will probably never work? Also, are you sending that bastard back (and getting your money back)?
OK - Forgive me father, I am here to REPENT for my SINS!
TLDR: I got fed up and tired of thinking about the Model S and I just decided to blow some money to drive one (from Turo). I had to go about two hours away from my den and the only thing available was a Plaid with 19s.
Let's just start off by saying this... THIS *sugar* SHOULDNT BE LEGAL KIDS. MY GODDDDD.
The first time I floored it I:
i: blacked out
ii. laughed so freaking hard I nearly wrecked this poor peacock's freaking car!
iii. had the realization that life is too short to be responsible with money
Tesla has ruined my life. I'll never be able to enjoy roller coasters again. It was like for the first time I was truly alive. I damn near called my doctor to cancel my Viagra ON THE SPOT!
OK OK so with the acceleration out of the way - I love the damn screens. Lucid calls it an ipad on wheels? Screw Lucid.
BBS - Big Beautiful Screens, that's what I call em. I love how responsive the center one is, how quick the apps runs. How it can actually hear my roar and navigate to places.
The yoke. Much love baby. This is hands down top 3 thing of this car. Feels like Im driving a ferrari, except its quieter, faster (and handles better, screw you ferrari!).
The car's cabin is pretty quiet on the 19s. Not really sure what would make it more silent at this point. AFAIK this peacock didnt have ARNR but I dont care. Also, the stereo system sounds pretty much the same as the peasant teslas, not sure what some of you are talking about. Hearing loss is my guess! (snicker, snicker).
The car's build was decent, though not amazing. This peacock got their car just a week ago and decided to let dumbasses from the internet like me drive it because, they need money...? (want to share the joy of Tesla?) I just decided screw it. If its good enough, its good enough (I love my torturer I know).
Why did I do this? Well because I thought about all of these other EVs coming out and there's something wrong with each of them. Crappy range. Crappy infotainment systems, crappy apps, crappy dealers, supports jeff bezos, etc. Every time I asked myself what I would change it was basically just turning it in to the model S.
WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE OLE' TIGERS?! Well, my peasantmobile is still on hold. I want it. I need it. But I also want that tilting screen, new tail lights and new headlights so might as well see if Tesla is going to update them soon.
Regardless, let the pain and suffering begin! IM BACK BABY, IM BACK!
Tigers
Great post. Been away from this thread a while enjoying my Plaid and needing a break from endless whining about delivery dates and getting shafted by faulty half shafts.
After a month of almost exclusive Plaid time over 2k miles I’m super spoiled by the power, yoke, screens and colors. My two wishes are that the roof pillar was a little farther back similar to the X, and that the front seats were an inch or two wider. I’m a big boy 6’4”, and leg room is good.
No mechanical issues, vibrations hooting, cooing, flickering or whatever. ARNR doesn’t do much but that could be due to aftermarket winter tires on signature wheels. Indeed sometimes ARNR reverberates and I have to *sugar* it off. I don’t think it’s yet programmed for a wide range of road noise.
I had to drive my wife’s pre-refresh 2021 X the other day and it felt like driving a model T. Cold weather one pedal driving sucks. Wheel sucks. Stalks suck. Small narrow screen sucks.
YMMV
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Question: is the one pedal driving different in the cold for the new Model S and how?
Also: Humble Brag
For whatever reason, when below freezing the X regen is non-existent for an extended period (hours?) unless the battery is preconditioned. While the MSP has posted lower regen messages it's been when the temp is down in low double digits or below, and the regen is still meaningful. At above 20f, regen seems to work normally. SuC performance is awesome also. Better than the X, but the X is pretty darn quick at the SuC.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
Yes, I have driven three other Plaids from local owners. All have the vibration to some extent. Also, Tesla eventually said they will all likely have this develop at some point! And, to add insult to injury, they said for now Tesla considers it normal - until they have a fix for what they will later call, not normal. I was further told this was how it worked on the prior generation that had the "Shuttering under hard acceleration" issue. Only took five years to resolve that one.... Again, one can't make this shite up!
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jebinc
Well-Known Member
That's the thing - the half shafts are not problem, as replacing them does not resolve permanently the vibration!
So question...why doesnt this fall under the lemon law? Sounds like you've taken it back multiple times for the same issue, they admit its an issue that they cant resolve/dont know how to resolve yet. And its a new (not used) car.
Under Lemon Law, if you pursue, isnt this a slam dunk you get all your money back/they take the care back type of case?
Short of mudding up this thread, find the history here Poll: 3x - 4x mph Refreshed Model S (LR and Plaid) Vibration issue build / VIN ranges, here "Refreshed" Model S model VIBRATION tracking and information thread!!! (with four other threads linked) and here POLL: vibration felt when slightly accelerating refresh Mode S Plaid or LR
Didnt realize the Lemon Law allowed the manufacturer to be the sole decision maker on whether or not something is considered "normal". Sounds legally sketchy to me, but I'll assume the persons that have suffered/are suffering this issue know much more about lemon law re: this, than I do.
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
Oh I have a scorecard alright. As for buyback, work in progress, still.
This is what I wrote in another forum...That's the thing - the half shafts are not problem, as replacing them does not resolve permanently the vibration!
Thanks to yerEVan!
Just read an old service bulletin for 2014 to 2019 MX and MS complaints of vibration on acceleration. It appears the driveshaft replacements are not the source of the vibration, they are the consequence of a motor mount clevis allowing the power source (motor/final drive output), to move side to side. This allows the drive shaft to no longer turn on center uncontrollably, inducing vibration, placing orbital stress on the universal joints of the shafts Again, this is for earlier models. But, if it is still an issue with the refresh models after drive shaft replacement, the fix was not complete!
Any shaft that transmits power must be mounted firmly enough at both ends to prevent shaft rotation in an orbital fashion, while trying to rotate concentrically at the same time. This is bad for the universal joints and is why the shafts are replaced. Tesla knows of this as they wrote the service bulletin....
SB-19-39-001 Revision 2.
Replace LH Front Drive Unit Clevis Mount and Both Front Halfshafts
Condition.
Older versions of the Model S and Model X LH front drive unit clevis mount contain a bushing that allows the front drive unit to move side-to-side more than expected during hard accelerations, resulting in excessive vibrations coming from the front drive unit during hard acceleration. This is exclusively an NVH issue and does not otherwise affect steering functionality, braking, or acceleration.
Correction.
An updated LH front drive unit clevis mount with an improved bushing is available which mitigates the condition. Upon customer complaint, inspect the vehicle for excessive vibrations coming from the front drive unit during hard acceleration. If the condition is present, update the LH front drive unit clevis mount and replace both front drive unit halfshafts.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
Different vibration present in different circumstances. This old fix for that doesn’t work on the new refreshed vibration issue.
I see. It's interesting because I'm generally very sensitive to these types of issues. Yet, I don't really notice it in my car. I would imagine local roads would have an impact on the intensity. Or at least how much one can feel the I tensity of the vibration. Our local roads, my normal routes are crap. So maybe it would be more apparent if they were not?
If you ever get to LA feel free to hit me up and see if there's a difference between your car and mine.
What‘s the actual wait for orders of a Model X Long Range in California currently?
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
What I get hung up is that you describe it as both a filling rattling vibration and also one so subtle that I may not realize my car has it....
I guess my point is, yes, and as I said, If the 2022's received updated clevis mounts or a completely different design and the vibration problem returns after shaft replacement, the problem is not the shafts. The shaft's demise are a consequence of another issue. Also, if vibrations continue to be present in this area with no fix from Tesla, it will cause issues to other components down the road so all must make sure to keep all records.
While almost all new owners signed the an arbitration agreement, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration did not!
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Toyota had an alignment issue with the Tacoma driveline where a tolerance stack up would end up with a percentage of vehicles that had an issue that could not be fixed. I surmise that this kind of issue could exist here the S. On cars that are well aligned the condition never manifests itself. On others its the opposite and cant be remedied with part replacement.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
The “filing rattling vibration” comment was a poor attempt at injecting some levity. If I didn’t joke about it, I would cry.
What does the Tesla website indicate for the configuration you want?
Asking for actual wait times is like asking what the weather will be six months from now. Nobody knows.
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