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Unlike the Ford etc order page that calls out 2023 model year I don’t see Any call out for model year on the Tesla order page other then model type. Seems pretty clear when placing an order in 23 you would assume your getting a 23.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
But if you receive a car in '24, you'd expect a '24...
n2mb_racing
Active Member
Until you go to sell to CarMax, and that's all they care about....
Eh I think Tesla deserves blame here. They deliberately make the process vague. Tesla could announce when the actual changeover will happen and whether or not there will be a price change with said changeover. Every other manufacturer does this. And Tesla used to follow the usual paradigm of doing the model year changeover in the fall like other manufacturers.
AMPd
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Or even Tesla themselves.
We should run an experiment and have someone who took delivery of a 23 recently, request a trade in quote along with someone who will take delivery of a 2024 and see what Tesla offers on trade.
And Tesla used to follow the paradigm of changing the model year to match the calendar year of production before that.
We don't know if Tesla is switching back to how they originally did it, or if they will continue to make 2023 model year vehicles in 2024.
Sure. But like I said, I think they deserve some of the blame here for being deliberately vague on these things. They could make things easier on themselves and their customers if they were just up front.
Side curiosity not specific to the topic but I always wondered how ethical it was/is to offer 24’ model cars in October of 23’? Seems like a means to inflate values against insurance providers.
Literally every other manufacturer does this (often times the switchover happening more like August - September)... so perfectly ethical since that's more or less the accepted standard. Now in most cases the model year change over will have at least minor changes (option configuration changes, updating some minor components, that sort of thing) and more often than not an MSRP increase.
I do think in this day and age valuation should probably be based on equipment, condition, build date, and miles rather than an arbitrary model year designation. And I do think the resale difference is small enough that the people sweating the changeover months in advance are going over the top.
I agree wholeheartedly. Tell us when 2024 will be arriving. Tell us if there are any changes. Tell us if the price will go up. It's pretty simple. I'm growing frustrated with all of this. My car isn't suppose to be here until Feb2-March 15th. I've been scouring message boards and X for the last 4-5 months to see if there are any leaks. Just give me my damn 2024!
Tesla has all the blame, folks want to know what year car they are buying, is it a 2023 model or 2024 model. I don't understand why they aren't clear about this issue? From a revenue perspective, the vin does not matter, the sale date when you pay for the car is when they can book revenue, weather it is a used 2021, or a new 2023 or 2024 model. I see zero advantages for Tesla to be unclear but plenty of downside.
It seems clear to me. You are getting a 2023 until Tesla says they are delivering 2024s. Tesla has said nothing that would make people think that they are currently ordering a 2024 model year vehicle.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
They never say anything about the year period, so there is no way to know what you are getting.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Greater than Zero chance someone here will be offered a car on New Years Eve.
Most likely a reject or '23, or both!
Ask me how I know....
Most likely a reject or '23, or both!
Ask me how I know....
For VIN purposes, how is the tenth letter (denoting year) established? There has to be a consistent approach across all manufacturers. Is it based on the day the build for that car started? Finished? Something else?
Or do manufacturers have the leeway to decide? If BMW was selling a 2024 model in September 2023 would its tenth letter be P or R?
Or do manufacturers have the leeway to decide? If BMW was selling a 2024 model in September 2023 would its tenth letter be P or R?
Nope.
Nope. Nope.
Yep.
Yep.
R
OEMs are allowed to start making 2024 model year vehicles starting as early as 1/2/2023 or as late as 12/31/2024. (But once they start making a specific model year they can continue to make that model year for as long as they want.)
I assume that they could start making 2025 model year vehicles on 1/2/2024 if they wanted to.
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