Wiki Model S Delivery Update

[ZipByICE]

The thin side wall is most certainly a consideration for ride quality but dampers can be used to absorb energy not buffered by the side walls. For me, the biggest difference in a change in wheels was dropping 10 lbs per corner in wheel weight. Sprung to unsprung weight ratios on suspensions has everything to do with wheel response time and the tire's ability to stay attached to the road. It also dramatically affects ride quality.

Unlike others who concentrate on wraps and such, my very first work will be on quantifying rim weight for the stock 21s versus affordable (TSW) and stupid expensive (forged/machined) 20" rims. If the current 21s are similar to previous Tesla rims there is likely a very nice ride and performance (less mass to spin accelerating or braking) benefit to be had changing rims.

Why not offer an option of no wheels at all? You select what you really want, have it shipped to Tesla and they mount it. Of course it would be PIA for Tesla (charge for it) and a nightmare for figuring which wheels/ties would work but it could be an option for those interested. Think about all those wheels/tires that sit unused. I swapped wheels/tires on my Z, kept old set (just in case) and ended up giving them away after a couple of years. After they took up all that space in Garage.

 

[AMGF]

Agreed, looks are the only thing you're getting with 21" but you're getting way more with 19s. Range and protection from potholes is undeniably a better trade for some folks than looks.

Agreed, and for 5k$ you can actually a very decent set of wheels with the look you like.

 

[lzolman]

I’m convinced the “going blank” part of the ordering experience is a social experiment to see how humans react when estimates don’t just change… - they completely disappear.

Well, if you're correct, then this board is being tightly monitored and analyzed by Tesla headquarters.
Elon, ship the damn 19s!!!!!!!!

 

[drdonger]

Absolutely aftermarket is a good option. But many of us just want that off-the-lot, stock feel, with the best tires around. Count me in. I wouldn't expect too different of a 1/4 mile time with 10lbs off per wheel, but look forward to people trying! They said the same thing with the Model 3 Performance and the 20s vs 18s, and the 20s are pulling pretty much identical times.

It does make a difference and there are videos on line of the M3P doing faster 0-60’s and 1/4 miles with lighter wheels. I personally wouldn’t spend $4500 for 35lb cast wheels. If I’m going that fast I’d prefer some MPSC2’s and forged wheels for the summer and 19’s for the winter. I’l like the reassurance of knowing my wheel won’t crack if I hit a bump at those speeds.

 

[MarcG]

Mid-August for Production
this sucks donkey nuts

I think @sam3194 meant he was quoted mid-August for his delivery, not start of production of the 19s.

 

[Jacopo]

Update: Hell has frozen over and I have a VIN. Odd I received no email but just saw it when I checked my account this morning. Is this normal? I excited but don’t trust it obviously. View attachment 684420

Congrats, man! That's why I keep checking the Account page. But at this point, I am still waiting for the messages that MSLR with 19'' are starting to rolling out. I was tempted to upgrade to 21'' but here in northern NJ the streets are so bad, it just doesn't make sense.

 

[DukeofURL]

I think @sam3194 meant he was quoted mid-August for his delivery, not start of production of the 19s.

What I'm most interested in is whether the east coast (my order) or the west coast (your order) of the came config with the same RN gets a VIN first!

 

[drdonger]

It would be nice if Tesla offered a 20” forged option. That I would pay $4500 for.

 

[DukeofURL]

It would be nice if Tesla offered a 20” forged option. That I would pay $4500 for.

This is the "ZeroG" wheel option rumored to arrive in the fall. Expecting over $7k though, so I'll likely go aftermarket.

 

[MarcG]

What I'm most interested in is whether the east coast (my order) or the west coast (your order) of the came config with the same RN gets a VIN first!

Indeed! I’m guessing yours since there’s a longer lead time for shipping (I’m picking up at the factory).

 

[WilliamG]

It does make a difference and there are videos on line of the M3P doing faster 0-60’s and 1/4 miles with lighter wheels. I personally wouldn’t spend $4500 for 35lb cast wheels. If I’m going that fast I’d prefer some MPSC2’s and forged wheels for the summer and 19’s for the winter. I’l like the reassurance of knowing my wheel won’t crack if I hit a bump at those speeds.

Your wheels are unlikely to crack - it takes quite something to do that. I hear you about the potholes, though. I live in Seattle where the roads are appalling.

 

[cwanja]

Your wheels are unlikely to crack - it takes quite something to do that. I hear you about the potholes, though. I live in Seattle where the roads are appalling.

I would agree, except I had a Honda Accord rim crack. No curb, no accident. Understand that every situation is different and no one experience is the same. Especially since other cars likely hit the same spot I did and their rims did not crack. The old Swiss cheese model - do all of the holes line up to have that "perfect storm".

 

[MFrunkerOG]

Spoke to fremont yesterday! Millennial answering the phone told me not to change anything on my RN order else "unknown things would happen". I was scared enuff to politely apologize for disturbing said millennial and wished them a happy July.

 

[bmt00]

Why not offer an option of no wheels at all? You select what you really want, have it shipped to Tesla and they mount it.

They can't even manage shipping their own wheels, this seems like far too great a level of complexity for their current situation and capabilities, no matter how much they charged for it.

 

[Laddcruzer]

But NOT Christine.

I’ve named my Plaid “KITT” for now. Us David’s like that name.

 

[drdonger]

This is the "ZeroG" wheel option rumored to arrive in the fall. Expecting over $7k though, so I'll likely go aftermarket.

I'm hoping Martian wheels comes out with a staggered set of 20" wheels. They seem very reasonably priced, lightweight and forged. I love the Signature wheels, but I don't want to spend that much on my daily.

 

[bbrown14]

My date has changed, almost daily, for a week. Most times moving backwards, but once or twice pulling forward. Also, the spread of the 2 dates is not always the same. Currently 07/27 - 08/10.

For the past 3 days, every morning the Delivery window just pushes back another day. Currently July 29 - August 12.

 

[NavyZW]

Spoke to fremont yesterday! Millennial answering the phone told me not to change anything on my RN order else "unknown things would happen". I was scared enuff to politely apologize for disturbing said millennial and wished them a happy July.

Woah woah woah! What's wrong with Millennials? As a Millennial who ordered the Long Range back in December of 2020 and knows how to properly spell "enough" I must say, I fear for the "unknown things" that could happen more than most! Happy July to you mysterious person of unknown generation

 

[MyT-S]

I was just looking at the new manual, and I noticed that for winter tires “must be the same diameter, brand, construction and tread pattern on all four wheels.” Does this mean that the winter rims from my 70D can be used on the LR?

 

[MFrunkerOG]

Woah woah woah! What's wrong with Millennials? As a Millennial who ordered the Long Range back in December of 2020 and knows how to properly spell "enough" I must say, I fear for the "unknown things" that could happen more than most! Happy July to you mysterious person of unknown generation

I rest my case