If you're adding both then you might as well just add a second 50kW DC unit instead.
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NRMA fast charging network
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lennier
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50kW DC units are $35-40k I believe. A type 2 11-22kW is a fraction of that and could be installed plugged in to a 3ph socket rather than hard wired (as they do at some of the RACV resorts). Even a parallel 3ph socket would add little extra.
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In high-EV countries like Norway I hear they have mobile DC charging options. Pretty cool.
$35,750 from EVSE.
The capital cost of the chargers is not the major issue though, it's the initial and ongoing costs of the electricity network connection that matters. A 22kW type 2 and 32A 3phase socket are going to need another 64A of supply, not that much different to a second RT50 needing another 80A.
32A 3-Phase as back-up, no need for extra cable run and cost about $200
Chuq
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I haven't seen a lot of movement on new NRMA sites, particularly the remote ones (Broken Hill, Nyngan, Bourke) shown here! (map published some time last year).
www.mynrma.com.au
Why the NRMA supports electric vehicles
We are leading the national debate on Electric Vehicles (EVs) because we know it is the right thing to do. We recognise the benefits of electric vehicles and are here to help Australia through this transition.
www.mynrma.com.au
And I suspect a lot of this comes back to the recently closed Arena funding round
arena.gov.au
Where one of the requirements for funding was a site hadn't been announced.
So i'd expect NRMA, Chargefox, Evie etc have sites ready to go once they get funding.
(Noting that this round was focused on the capital cities. Unsure if there is a similar NSW govt round for regional chargers)
Future Fuels Fund (Round 1)
The Future Fuels Fund aims to reduce transport sector barriers to businesses and fleets to choose new vehicle technologies.
arena.gov.au
Where one of the requirements for funding was a site hadn't been announced.
So i'd expect NRMA, Chargefox, Evie etc have sites ready to go once they get funding.
(Noting that this round was focused on the capital cities. Unsure if there is a similar NSW govt round for regional chargers)
I suspect the NSW Budget, to be handed down in mid-June, will be the trigger.
Two breadcrumbs lead me to this: (1) in the map above, the remote sites are flagged as “NRMA / TfNSW Co-Invested Sites” and (2) the NSW Treasurer, Dominic Perrottet said he will take a “holistic” tax plan for electric vehicles to this year’s state budget, which I think is code for Government assistance to extend the public charger network. Also:
Coalition’s EV power plays amp up ahead of crucial vote
As the Nationals try to cling on to a marginal electorate where coal is king, there’s frustration with their Coalition partners for focusing on “city-centric” issues like electric vehicles.
“Perrottet’s approach is likely to involve incentives and investment in electric vehicle infrastructure, such as charging stations before a levy”
More DCFCs in the bush tick the LNP’s boxes, or at least can be defended as not just for the ‘inner city elites’.
Somewhere like Broken Hill they might want the whole way sorted before announcing
The route to Broken Hill needs some priority, but there is a slight issue...
From Cobar to Wilcannia is 261km, which for SR+'s doesn't leave much leeway for wind, bad weather or broken charging hardware.
And looking at Streetview on sections along the stretch, there doesn't seem to be any power lines along the road, so there is little chance even a small "filling station" could be installed between the two towns.
Anyone want to invest in a Solar powered charging station (with batteries) at Noona?
Oooh Blaxland! Any ideas when that's likely to be up and running? Where in Blaxland will it be?
RareEarth
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Past the end of the grid, solar / battery stations are the solution. It will be expensive to do properly and the further out you go, the less likely it is anyone except government is going to do this.
I found it:
Electric vehicle charging stations for Blaxland
Council is in talks with electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer Tesla to provide EV charging stations...
Also see.I found it:
Electric vehicle charging stations for Blaxland
Council is in talks with electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer Tesla to provide EV charging stations...www.bmcc.nsw.gov.au
Supercharger - Blaxland, NSW
https://www.bmcc.nsw.gov.au/media-centre/electric-vehicle-charging-stations-for-blaxland Council is in talks with electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer Tesla to provide EV charging stations in the Blue Mountains. At a recent meeting, Council endorsed plans to enter a licence agreement with Tesla...
teslamotorsclub.com
Yes, that bit looks tricky. NRMA have always talked about 150KM between stops. The Emmdale Roadhouse looks like a good location but not sure how they get power.
Western NSW is extremely sparsely populated and large areas are off-grid. A big challenge for any EV infrastructure.
I’ve driven the Silver City Highway from Broken Hill to Mildura once - a drive of nearly 300 km. I don’t recall seeing a single town or roadhouse of any kind along that entire route. Almost completely uninhabited.
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Would be an interesting business case for a solar/battery station at various outback spots.
The rates would have to be exorbitant, but then again outback services usually are.
We already have the example of Caltex Jurien Bay on how these sorts of remote chargers might work. Take a look at the instructions (the pricing isn't too eyewatering either really).
Like this one, a lot of the remote Roadhouses used diesel generators (with their expensive shipped in diesel) for power.
Still more efficient than a diesel car, as a generator with an efficient engine running at constant speed gets good energy/L.
With time I'd expect you'd get bigger solar farms and Battery storage (you'll need more than just the roof of the Roadhouse).
Maybe some of the solar farm in a shipping container setups - deploy 35 panels out of a shipping container with tracking. Can go back into the box at night or when batteries are full.
Still more efficient than a diesel car, as a generator with an efficient engine running at constant speed gets good energy/L.
With time I'd expect you'd get bigger solar farms and Battery storage (you'll need more than just the roof of the Roadhouse).
Maybe some of the solar farm in a shipping container setups - deploy 35 panels out of a shipping container with tracking. Can go back into the box at night or when batteries are full.
