Does the NOA require confirmation?
Haven't tested yet. At this time it is highway traffic and also spending time with the family.
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Does the NOA require confirmation?
Which version did you get and can you tell us what is in the notes?Just got it on my 2014 S. What does it add to an AP1 car? Dog mode?
Tesla begins rollout of Enhanced Summon, Navigate on Autopilot with no stalk confirmation
Let me guess - not for S/X.
When did you buy as you might be MCU 1 even if you have HW 2.5Let me guess, not for Europe
Being the owner of a Model X +FSD on Spain (Europe) I really feel the last monkey in the lane for Tesla.
But I suppose it could be worse, I could have MCU 1 or HW 2.0.
When did you buy as you might be MCU 1 even if you have HW 2.5
How do you know the S&X aren't using the same cell formulation as the Model 3? (The packaging difference, 18650 vs. 2170, really doesn't matter.)
2019.8.2. Did not check the notes though.Which version did you get and can you tell us what is in the notes?
I do not know for sure but why would Tesla waste time and money to change the battery chemistry in old technology, 18650s, when they could just use the 2170s in Model S and Xs.
I thought the 18650 were shorter and narrower hence the 18mm and 65mm that makes up the name.
The 2170 are taller and thicker hence the 21mm and 70mm that also makes up the name.
The physical change of the cells means that they may not fit into the same Model S and Model X pack or then even mount to the frame of the Model S and Model X without considerably change. The cooling/heating solution within the P100D pack would need to change to accommodate the larger cells.View attachment 388180
I could be wrong, but I think this was mentioned in some other TMC thread... It might explain why we may not see the 2170 in the Model S or Model X.
... however I'm guessing they can bring the same chemistry from thew 2170 into the 18650...
I do not know for sure but why would Tesla waste time and money to change the battery chemistry in old technology, 18650s, when they could just use the 2170s in Model S and Xs.
Because changing the formula is essentially a no-cost change. You change the recipe and you are done. No need to redesign the pack, cooling, car, manufacturing equipment, etc.
The question would be more: If you have developed a new formulation that has better properties, why would you not start using across your entire cell family?
Because changing the formula is essentially a no-cost change. You change the recipe and you are done. No need to redesign the pack, cooling, car, manufacturing equipment, etc.
The question would be more: If you have developed a new formulation that has better properties, why would you not start using across your entire cell family?
Don't worry my friend, there is a lot of world outside of North America suffering equally with you. So it's not only "not for Europe", it's more like "only for North America". We're missing out on just as much if not more in Australia. Some features never made it here, like fob summon, the web browser and so on, whilst others are lagging with no NoA.Let me guess, not for Europe
Being the owner of a Model X +FSD on Spain (Europe) I really feel the last monkey in the lane for Tesla.
But I suppose it could be worse, I could have MCU 1 or HW 2.0.
I don’t know about the US plug specs, but I believe the European Mennekes Type 2 was not designed for high level powers and actually Tesla decided to use it anyway for the current SuC 120kW, outside the specs (50kW). Which made sense as there was really no other standards.
Type 2 connector - Wikipedia
But so for 200kW and more, I wonder if the same plug can handle it.
I don’t know about the US plug specs, but I believe the European Mennekes Type 2 was not designed for high level powers and actually Tesla decided to use it anyway for the current SuC 120kW, outside the specs (50kW). Which made sense as there was really no other standards.
Type 2 connector - Wikipedia
But so for 200kW and more, I wonder if the same plug can handle it.