Supercharger - Ballarat (Lucas)

[srwx]

Did a drive by last night, couple of guys working on it. Don’t get out that way often but feels like Lucas area growing quickly.

As someone who lives in the area and drives through and shops in Lucas almost every day, the growth in that area is staggering. It seems to never end, I think I have had to deal with road works due to new estates being developed for 5 solid years now without a break

 

[RichardV]

Yes large white cabinets are there right now, much larger than the ones at the other site. They are on a concrete section between the 2 pedestals off on their own and the group of 8 together, just to the right of my photo

Yeah, V3 cabinets are larger than V2 cabinets, the other Ballarat site is V2. V2 units service 2 cars, A and B. V3 units can service 3 or 4 depending A - D, but can also share power between cabinets. Do you recall the number of cabinets?

 

[srwx]

Yeah, V3 cabinets are larger than V2 cabinets, the other Ballarat site is V2. V2 units service 2 cars, A and B. V3 units can service 3 or 4 depending A - D, but can also share power between cabinets. Do you recall the number of cabinets?

I think it was 3? Could have been 2.. if no one gets to it sooner I'll be there again on Friday to confirm.

 

[srwx]

The interesting thing about this location is that the staff from the medical centre directly opposite over the road would park right where these superchargers are as they are normally empty during the day because they are the furthest from the shopping centre. I will be intrigued to see if they get iced just out of spite from people who feel like we have "stolen" their parking

 

[srwx]

Yeah, V3 cabinets are larger than V2 cabinets, the other Ballarat site is V2. V2 units service 2 cars, A and B. V3 units can service 3 or 4 depending A - D, but can also share power between cabinets. Do you recall the number of cabinets?

ahha! I just remembered my dashcam could see the cabinets. 3!

 

[RichardV]

ahha! I just remembered my dashcam could see the cabinets. 3!

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Interesting. At least one of these must be a 4 output version. Most other Australian V3 cabinets are 3 output. Will be interesting to see the faceplates of these.

 

[srwx]

Two of the cabinets say 3 outputs and the 3rd one says 4 outputs but otherwise the plates are identical (volts, amps, inputs/outputs etc.) and there does appear to be another cabinet coming to cap/route cables to the pedestals.

 

[RichardV]

Two of the cabinets say 3 outputs and the 3rd one says 4 outputs but otherwise the plates are identical (volts, amps, inputs/outputs etc.) and there does appear to be another cabinet coming to cap/route cables to the pedestals.
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Thanks for this.

Interesting that this cabinet says manufactured in China. The other v3 face plates I have looked at in Australia have been made in Buffalo (USA). More interesting again as the v3 China destined installs are all 3 post outputs due to the lower voltage used there as the less overall power to share to the posts. Will have to make more of a note of future v3 sites visited.

It looks like that any future expansion here would all be new cabinets, not that I know of any planned here. Benalla though is getting planing for a 10 stall start with a 20 stall approved upgrade. They may still stick with 3/3/4 and 3/3/4 cabinet approach there also. It would simplify the install and expansion and does give more overall site power to share between the cars. With the arrangement here for Lucas a full 10 car site would give a capacity for around 100kW to all cars simultaneously. And for Benalla if they went with just a 4/4/4 to start and add a 4/4 cabinet install for the final 20 car expansion then it would only be around 83kW to all cars simultaneously.

 

[srwx]

Bit more work done. Cable cabinet installed, lines painted, big hole dug and a bit of a mess made to one of the charge posts. It also looks like they ran extra conduits to allow for 3 more charger cabinets and you can see where they capped them in front of the existing 3.

 

[Chuq]

Bit more work done. Cable cabinet installed, lines painted, big hole dug and a bit of a mess made to one of the charge posts. It also looks like they ran extra conduits to allow for 3 more charger cabinets and you can see where they capped them in front of the existing 3.

3 more cabinets! That's insane, in a good way. Fantastic to see Tesla forward planning like this. Very similar to Benalla.

 

[srwx]

The big hole explained. Currently being installed 1 x 2000kVA 22kV upgrade for the carpark

 

[cafz]

2MVA, nice. They could install 2 more cabinets in the future.

 

[RichardV]

2MVA, nice. They could install 2 more cabinets in the future.

I think it is sized for the three more future cabinets speculated above.

For 480V, the cabinets do 387kVA but for 415V, the cabinets only do about 335kVA. So with australian 400-415V three phase it is sized for 5.97-6.21 cabinets.

 

[Chuq]

The first V3 site in the USA (High Roller at Las Vegas) has a 2.5MVA transformer for 24 stalls. So a little bit over 100 kW per stall, which a 2MVA cabinet for 20 stalls at this site lines up pretty well.

 

[chadwickau]

curious to see if they keep the current site in addition to this one or not. desperately need more in Horsham

 

[AussieOwner]

curious to see if they keep the current site in addition to this one or not. desperately need more in Horsham

Desperately need anything between Melbourne & Ballarat (Moone Ponds V2 Chargers excluded).

Ive been banging on for months to anyone who will listen about the fastest Victorian growth corridors having 0 chargers (or 5 when you take into account local council chargers across three Shires).

Thats 5 Chargers for 3 Shire Councils which is a disgrace and 0 Tesla Chargers.

 

[Quickst]

fastest Victorian growth corridors

ballarat being the epicentre?

 

[moa999]

curious to see if they keep the current site in addition to this one or not.

Guess time will tell. They are supplementing all the sites in the Hume/ Pacific. The Western was probably next in line and for some reason this site (easy of power, maybe offered site) jumped up the queue.

Agree the three stalls at Horsham appear light, albeit at least they are V3.

 

[locksmack]

Desperately need anything between Melbourne & Ballarat (Moone Ponds V2 Chargers excluded).

Bacchus Marsh would be a good option, but more are needed in the western suburbs, like Sunshine, Taylor's Lakes and Werribee.

 

[chadwickau]

Agree the three stalls at Horsham appear light, albeit at least they are V3.

Hopefully a Nhill or Stawell site would help solve the Horsham issue during long weekend/holidays. Especially with this extra capacity in Lucas. Keith >Nhill > Lucas just take pressure of Horsham