Superchargers in Australia

[Midnight Man]

And this entire post has been thrown out of whack by the surprise appearance of Supercharger - Abbotsford, Vic !

It makes one wonder which other sites (known with permit or otherwise) might be proceeding without anyone noticing.

Wouldn't it be awesome if Tesla themselves made a feed/page to update which locations were being worked on!

Mind - I have a question that I'm curious on, and Google doesn't seem to want to answer. With respect to Supercharger voting, what do the results actually mean? Does the top site in the Asia/Pacific list get built? Or the tope 3 sites? Or none?

I'm not discounting the process - I think it's awesome that they are asking for this type of input - but what isn't clear (and I've probably missed it somewhere) is what a round of voting actually achieves.

 

[cafz]

Mind - I have a question that I'm curious on, and Google doesn't seem to want to answer. With respect to Supercharger voting, what do the results actually mean? Does the top site in the Asia/Pacific list get built? Or the tope 3 sites? Or none?

The top five sites in each region at the end of every quarter get moved onto the main Supercharger map as a to-be-built site.

See for example previous winner Apollo Bay.

 

[Quickst]

Wouldn't it be awesome if Tesla themselves made a feed/page to update which locations were being worked on!

If I were Tesla, I would not publicise any request by a landlord/ building operator to build SC. There is increasing competition for SC location sites
No publicity during the build is best
I wonder if the provisional sites are a Tesla installation request rather than a landlord request to Tesla.?

I'm hearing that some are speculating that Tesla is very fast with its building process of SC.

It goes to show though, that there is really no restrictions to EV charging within buildings. If Tesla can put in V3 SC in a building, building managers should put in AC chargers

 

[SPadival]

I hope there are some leftover V4 superchargers for poor us

The project aims at deploying 6,458 recharging points (250 kW) for LDV in 613 locations in 16 countries (AT, BE, BG, DE, ES, FI, FR, IE, IT, LV, LT, LU, NL, RO, SK, SE) along the Core and Comprehensive Network.
The project aims to deploy 740 recharging points (250 kW) for LDV in 74 locations in 6 countries (CZ, EL, HR, HU, PL, SI) along the Core and Comprehensive Network.

Tesla lands EU funding for V4 Supercharger installations and expansions

Tesla has landed nearly €149 million in funding from the European Union to support the update and expansion of its Supercharger network in Europe.

www.teslarati.com

 

[moa999]

Interesting the replacement of outdated equipment (think NSW and Qld excluded this)

Believe Tesla replaced all V1 stalls in the US with V2 (same cabinets) but it hasn't done anything with V2.
At some sites they've added V3 to an existing V2 install.

It would certainly be good if Tesla was able to upgrade the V2 stalls and cabinets (with their power sharing) at sites that get really busy during holiday periods.

 

[Chuq]

On the supercharger voting call-to-action: This is the write-up/summary I'm going to use to suggest to the admins of the big Aussie Tesla/EV FB groups - proofread/thoughts anyone?

Supercharger voting - call to action

docs.google.com

 

[B3AU]

On the supercharger voting call-to-action: This is the write-up/summary I'm going to use to suggest to the admins of the big Aussie Tesla/EV FB groups - proofread/thoughts anyone?

My 2c - "Tesla allows owners to vote" (replace with 'Tesla allows anyone with a Tesla account to vote' instead of 'owners' - since no Tesla needed)

 

[cafz]

On the supercharger voting call-to-action: This is the write-up/summary I'm going to use to suggest to the admins of the big Aussie Tesla/EV FB groups - proofread/thoughts anyone?

I would suggest less imperative language around the sites.

Rather than "vote for these sites", something more like "If you aren't sure which sites to vote for, I suggest these would be the biggest bang for buck". I know you're concerned about already-funded sites getting up, but people really don't like to feel like they're being told what to do and I think being too firm about which sites to vote for is likely to make people ignore it altogether. If even a small fraction of those groups vote, it's not going to matter about co-ordinating them too much, we should easily fill out the top five...

 

[Chuq]

I would suggest less imperative language around the sites.

Yeah, I had re-worded a couple of sections about voting to make it sound less demanding. Hopefully people realise they can vote for whatever sites they want, just that (as you say) it would be better bang-for-buck if we're not splitting between a dozen different sites!

 

[Midnight Man]

Just a tiny point - the third paragraph in the "Long Version" begins (underline to highlight changes):

The current voting period finished at the end of September.

I believe the intent is for it to read:

The current voting period finishes at the end of September.

 

[Blue heaven]

Seriously, how many people do you expect to be driving across the Nullabor in a Model S? Of course it'll be the most trafficked routes first.

9 years after this comment, we’ll over 100 EVs have crossed so far, maybe a dozen model S, still no Superchargers or fast DC between Whyalla and Perth, just crowd funded bits and pieces.

 

[moa999]

Looks like another price change has occured today, per a comment on Whirlpool
Bulk of regional superchargers now $0.70/kWh, up about 10%.

Seemingly even more variation at ToU sites, and the newly opened Abbotsford added to ToU.

 

[B3AU]

Looks like another price change has occured today, per a comment on Whirlpool
Bulk of regional superchargers now $0.70/kWh, up about 10%.

Non Tesla pricing now $0.85/kWh (!!!)
$9.99 membership still brings that rate in line with Tesla's $0.70/kWh price.

 

[Quickst]

EV using supercharger highway
0.70C/kwh
16kWh /100km
Cost per 100km = $11

Petrol highway
$2.2 per L
8L/100km
Cost per 100km = $17.6

Breakeven on this basis would be around $1.1 kWh

 

[moa999]

Sydney Macquarie also added to ToU list.

 

[Vostok]

And if you charge at home 90% of the time, breakeven would be around $11/kWh!

 

[Futuretech]

Sydney Macquarie also added to ToU list.
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What happens if I plug in 8.59am? 0.4 for the whole charge or just for the one munute

 

[ausevdriver]

It seems to be in the USA that the rate you start at applies to the whole charge.

I’ve seen photos of people all waiting to plug in at midnight for the off peak rate.

 

[Zoltrix77]

And if you charge at home 90% of the time, breakeven would be around $11/kWh!

And i'll still tell people that can't charge at home that they will likely be better off with a hybrid uless they want to chase down cheap power or they can access the FBT benefits

 

[Zoltrix77]

EV using supercharger highway
0.70C/kwh
16kWh /100km
Cost per 100km = $11

Petrol highway
$2.2 per L
8L/100km
Cost per 100km = $17.6

Breakeven on this basis would be around $1.1 kWh

And another $2.80/100km for Victorians in RUC.