At the currents involved, the hardware to do that would not be cheap and would be another failure point.
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At the currents involved, the hardware to do that would not be cheap and would be another failure point.
Drucifer
Active Member
But it is one more thing for people to be mindful of. I would bet less than half of Tesla owners/drivers understand the pairing concept to begin with. And if you are tired, or need to pee, you may just park "where ever" without some guidance.
I would consider those two separate issues, which I numbered there in your comment.
(1) Yes, people need to be informed of how it works, but...
(2) Is that so terrible if someone isn't on the potentially fastest stall? (If 1st car is mostly full, it's almost no difference.) If people are too tired or impatient or whatever to find the best spot, they will still get charging, but it will just be a bit slower. They are making that tradeoff choice, and that's not that big a deal. Maybe they are going to go get food, so they don't care if it takes a little longer and don't want to bother with checking the order of the stalls.
As long as people are informed how it works and have the ability to make the choice, it shouldn't matter to any of us if they take a paired stall and get a slower charging rate. More fast stalls for us!
Blu Zap
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Charger pairing is the least of our worries. if the unaware owner comes in AFTER us, then they get the slower charge and we continue with the charge based on the battery level.
The BIG issue is owners plugging in their car then getting in another vehicle and driving away. Who knows how long that Tesla will be there. It is the common courtesy to move your vehicle once it is charged that is our biggest issue.
I was talking to the folks at the Fremont Factory showroom. When owners take the factory tour, they ask if their Tesla is on a SuperCharger. If so, they retain the fob and move the car if it fills up while they are on the hour long tour. They also can see the charge status on all vehicles. So they can check with any owners in the waiting area. But what I saw last time, is they have no control of an owner who plugs in, gets in another car and drives away.
BTW, I am an owner with a HPWC. Used it for 18 months. I had to disable it and put in storage when my landlord sold my house. No provision for home charging anymore. So lay off the local's SC charging until you know the facts.
The BIG issue is owners plugging in their car then getting in another vehicle and driving away. Who knows how long that Tesla will be there. It is the common courtesy to move your vehicle once it is charged that is our biggest issue.
I was talking to the folks at the Fremont Factory showroom. When owners take the factory tour, they ask if their Tesla is on a SuperCharger. If so, they retain the fob and move the car if it fills up while they are on the hour long tour. They also can see the charge status on all vehicles. So they can check with any owners in the waiting area. But what I saw last time, is they have no control of an owner who plugs in, gets in another car and drives away.
BTW, I am an owner with a HPWC. Used it for 18 months. I had to disable it and put in storage when my landlord sold my house. No provision for home charging anymore. So lay off the local's SC charging until you know the facts.
That leaves one lonely contiguous state with no chargers to speak of, AR. Another winning record for the Clinton crime family.
The following is a list of the superchargers which opened in the last month and upcoming superchargers TMC has heard about. Sites with a known location are shown at supercharge.info; details of all sites are at the Supercharger Progress wiki. About 12 new North American stations opened over the last month, and we should expect around 12 new openings this month. There are a number of sites where we are expecting action and could even be under construction including Kuttawa KY, Grand Island NE, Columbia SC, Jackson TN, Midland TX, and Morgantown WV. If anyone is passing through any of those locations, please take a look around and report back what you find or don't find.
| Location | Site Known? | Status |
| Birmingham, AL | yes | under construction |
| Buena Park, CA | yes | operational |
| Fremont (Kato Road), CA | yes | under construction hiatus |
| Groveland, CA | yes | under construction |
| Santa Ana, CA | yes | awaiting transformer / hookup |
| Santa Barbara, CA | yes | in permitting |
| Santa Nella, CA | yes | awaiting power on / testing |
| South Lake Tahoe, CA | no | unknown |
| Fort Morgan, CO | no | unknown |
| Loveland, CO | yes | under construction |
| Naples, FL | yes | in permitting |
| Davenport, IA | yes | operational |
| West Des Moines, IA | yes | operational |
| Mount Vernon, IL | yes | operational |
| North Aurora, IL | yes | operational |
| Kuttawa, KY | no | unknown |
| Aberdeen, MD | yes | in permitting |
| Cumberland, MD | maybe | in site negotiations |
| Bay City, MI | yes | sometimes operational |
| Alexandria, MN | no | unknown |
| Clearwater, MN | yes | under construction |
| Joplin, MO | maybe | in site negotiations |
| Springfield, MO | yes | under construction |
| Meridian, MS | yes | operational |
| Lima, MT | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
| Statesville, NC | yes | in permitting |
| Fargo, ND | no | searching for site |
| Gothenburg, NE | yes | under construction |
| Grand Island, NE | no | under construction? |
| Kearney, NE | no | unknown |
| Lincoln, NE | yes | under construction |
| North Platte, NE | no | unknown |
| Ogallala, NE | yes | under construction |
| Lincoln, NH | yes | in permitting |
| Las Cruces, NM | maybe | in site negotiations |
| Santa Fe, NM | yes | in permitting |
| Kingston, NY | yes | operational |
| Tarrytown, NY | yes | under construction |
| Bandon, OR | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
| Bloomsburg, PA | yes | operational |
| Columbia, SC | no | unknown |
| Myrtle Beach, SC | yes | in permitting |
| Jackson, TN | no | under construction? |
| Memphis, TN | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
| Arlington, TX | yes | in permitting |
| Channelview, TX | yes | operational |
| Childress, TX | yes | operational |
| Junction, TX | yes | under construction |
| Kingsville, TX | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
| Midland, TX | maybe | under construction? |
| Texarkana, TX | maybe | in permitting |
| Wichita Falls, TX | no | in site selection |
| Aberdeen, WA | yes | under construction |
| Green Bay, WI | no | unknown |
| Stevens Point, WI | no | unknown |
| Wausau, WI | yes | in permitting |
| Morgantown, WV | no | unknown |
| Jackson, WY | yes | operational |
| Wheatland, WY | no | unknown |
| Fort McLeod, AB | yes | awaiting power on / testing |
| Merritt, BC | yes | under construction |
| Oakville, ON | yes | under construction |
| Lévis, QC | no | unknown |
dgpcolorado
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EVie'sDad
Member
I wonder, could the info page include a graphic layout of the stalls and their pairings?
So that when approaching an unfamiliar supercharger station, I can easily and quickly identify the optimal stall to connect to? Hunting down those little labels at the bottom of the pedastals and usually behind other vehicles right now does not make this practical. Especially since Tesla seems to be reluctant to direct this automatically via helpful instructions from the UI in the car when approaching a station.
So that when approaching an unfamiliar supercharger station, I can easily and quickly identify the optimal stall to connect to? Hunting down those little labels at the bottom of the pedastals and usually behind other vehicles right now does not make this practical. Especially since Tesla seems to be reluctant to direct this automatically via helpful instructions from the UI in the car when approaching a station.
I wish Tesla would color code the pairs. The patch of color wouldn't have to be huge, but it would be easier to spot the 1s from the 2s if one had a blue panel and the other had orange. Though it wouldn't help the color blind.
Doug Martoccia
Member
I've used superchargers a hundred times and never think about what stall to use, except to park as far away from other cars as a curtesy.
Seriously are you blaming the fact that AR has no SuperChargers on the Clintons?That leaves one lonely contiguous state with no chargers to speak of, AR. Another winning record for the Clinton crime family.
Saw a strange sign at the Brussels Airport Supercharger yesterday. Wonder what it is supposed to mean: that you are allowed to ICE a Supercharger if for not more than 40 minutes? (the first two stalls are indeed marked with "P", the other six only marked with the EV-loading pictogram - see second photo). Or that if you have another EV, you can charge at the first two Supercharger stalls (that is technically impossible today, right?). Or would it be the shape of things to come, i.e. Tesla tomorrow opening up its Superchargers for other EV's?
(the first two stalls are indeed marked with "P", the other six only marked with the EV-loading pictogram - see second photo). Or that if you have another EV, you can charge at the first two Supercharger stalls (that is technically impossible today, right?). Or would it be the shape of things to come, i.e. Tesla tomorrow opening up its Superchargers for other EV's?
I'm guessing this is similar to the situation at some US superchargers where certain spots are allowed to be ICEd due to the property owner's agreement with Tesla.Saw a strange sign at the Brussels Airport Supercharger yesterday. Wonder what it is supposed to mean: that you are allowed to ICE a Supercharger if for not more than 40 minutes?
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One idea is that the airport may have been required to have a certain number of EV charging spaces. Doing this allowed them to cross off two things at once and provides some flexibility.
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