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Location | Site Known? | Status |
Buena Park, CA | yes | under construction |
Crescent City, CA | yes | awaiting construction |
Eureka, CA | yes | under construction |
Folsom (Palladio), CA | yes | under construction |
Fremont (Kato Road), CA | yes | under construction hiatus |
Groveland, CA | yes | in planning/design |
Napa, CA | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
Placerville, CA | no | unknown |
Santa Ana, CA | yes | in permitting |
Santa Barbara, CA | yes | in permitting |
South Lake Tahoe, CA | no | unknown |
Augusta, GA | yes | operational |
West Des Moines, IA | yes | in permitting |
Idaho Falls, ID | yes | operational |
Peru, IL | yes | operational |
Bowling Green, KY | yes | operational |
Alexandria, LA | yes | operational |
Monroe, LA | mostly | in design / permitting |
Lee, MA | yes | under construction |
Laurel, MD | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
Brewer, ME | yes | in design / permitting |
Bay City, MI | yes | in permitting |
Port Huron, MI | yes | under construction |
Oakdale, MN | yes | under construction |
Joplin, MO | maybe | in site negotiations |
Rolla, MO | yes | permitting complete? |
Springfield, MO | yes | in permitting |
Meridian, MS | yes | in permitting |
Lima, MT | yes | in design / permitting |
Fargo, ND | no | searching for site |
North Platte/Ogallala, NE | no | searching for site |
Egg Harbor Township, NJ | yes | operational |
Tonopah, NV | yes | operational |
Plattsburgh, NY | yes | operational |
Queensbury, NY | no | unknown |
Southampton, NY | yes | operational |
Watertown, NY | yes | operational |
Catoosa, OK | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
Bend, OR | yes | operational |
Coos Bay/Bandon, OR | no | unknown |
Lincoln City, OR | yes | awaiting construction |
Seaside, OR | yes | operational |
Erie, PA | yes | operational |
Arlington, TX | yes | in design/permitting |
Cisco, TX | yes | under construction |
Lindale, TX | yes | operational |
Midland, TX | maybe | in design/permitting |
Sulphur Springs, TX | yes | operational |
Sweetwater, TX | yes | under construction |
Huntsville, ON | no | unknown |
Parry Sound, ON | no | unknown |
Magog, QC | yes | operational |
Rivière-du-Loup, QC | yes | awaiting construction |
Saint-Laurent, QC | yes | awaiting transformer & hookup |
That's good news. Good location to assist in trips to Bar Harbor, and maybe even on to the Maritime Provinces.TM was on site yesterday at Ruby Tuesday in Brewer Maine. Arrangements are being made for Emera to bring in power. It might be a couple of months before construction is complete. Eight Supercharger spaces behind the building (out of site of the Toyota dealer across the street). This may be the first in the new partnership. TM plans for SC near Houlton and there is a RT in Presque Isle between Caribou and Houlton which could be a good choice for travelers (that’s speculation on my part), about 170 miles north of the Brewer location. The only SC in Maine is near a RT. There are also RT’s in Portland, Brunswick, and Waterville—all good locations for SC’s for flexible travelling.
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"Four or five" charging stations sounds small for a supercharger site now. Could they be talking about HPWCs at the mall for destination charging? Or maybe they just got the numbers wrong.First Plattsburgh, now Queensbury, NY! The route from NYC to the North Country and Montreal is filling in nicely. Just spotted this article saying Superchargers are coming to Aviation Mall, by a Friendly's which was my favorite road trip restaurant chain as a kid:
Tesla charging stations on the way
People who don't know Supercharger sites like we do aren't likely to get the details right."Four or five" charging stations sounds small for a supercharger site now. Could they be talking about HPWCs at the mall for destination charging? Or maybe they just got the numbers wrong.
Anyone have any data to support/refute my or my brother's arguments?
"Four or five" charging stations sounds small for a supercharger site now. Could they be talking about HPWCs at the mall for destination charging? Or maybe they just got the numbers wrong.
I don't have any specific data but I work for an electricity network company. Speaking as the company (e.g. echoing the message that senior executives gve out put out there), we are looking forward to increased uptake of EVs because the usage is predominantly overnight. This results in more energy distributed through the network, which is good for us, but also doesn't impact on peak times, which is double good for us as it doesn't require network expansion.
We are introducing time-of-use tariffs which will result in much cheaper rates after 9pm. Once you introduce an economic incentive it is obvious to EV owners to utilise the timer function to start charging after this time.
There is an episode of Fully Charged where Robert visited National Grid in the UK, they also discussed uptake of EVs as allowing them to "fill in the bathtub" (referring to the overnight dip in the demand graph).
How many MWh per day (or month or year) do the superchargers deliver (in CA or USA or world)?
I was just at the Fremont plant, and I think they had a public running total, but I didn't think to take a picture.
I was telling my brother that I thought most (90%?) charging by Tesla drivers was done overnight, and that while some improvements to power grids might be necessary to support Model 3, it's not like peak electricity usage is likely to go up 10% nationwide if 20% of automobiles go electric. He seemed to think a fleet of 20% EVs would spell serious trouble for our electric grid. He thinks that just while I've only pulled 100 kWh from the grid during the day over 3.5 years that I'm unique and that before EVs become mainstream, somewhere around half of the users will expect to charge during the day. I tend to think that I'm not that unique and that most people would prefer to charge their car while they sleep rather than waiting at the side of the road to charge.
So, I figure if we know Tesla supercharger kHw per day, and we can guess at the total Tesla fleet charge per day, we could actually get an estimate about how much charging is being done during daytime hours (i.e. at superchargers) and how much is done at off peak hours (i.e. anywhere other than superchargers). (I figure the supercharger kWh at off peak and the non-supercharger kWh during peak might roughly cancel).
Anyone have any data to support/refute my or my brother's arguments?
Indeed. Potentially, EVs could end up causing more residential pricing to have demand charges. But even without that, you only need to look at stats that show that stretch commutes are only 1 in 200, and most of those are at the shorter end, so there wouldn't be a statistically significant proportion of households requiring peak charging. As far as I am aware, it's just some last mile work that would be needed. In areas where it matters TOU pricing differentials are substantial enough that a household with a PEV, particularly EREV or BEV, or particularly multi-PEV, would have significant incentive to be on TOU, and even if not simply encouraging people to shift charging will help.
I think the poster's acquaintance is mixing up the renewable generation issue with EVs, rather ironically, since EVs would also help with that as well.
We are introducing time-of-use tariffs which will result in much cheaper rates after 9pm. Once you introduce an economic incentive it is obvious to EV owners to utilise the timer function to start charging after this time.
As for not advertising the number... maybe they're embarassed that the Supercharger power isn't 100% solar yet. After all, can't you just see the hostile hit pieces? "Superchargers burn XXX tons of coal, paid for by Tesla to support freeloading drivers!" Betcha they advertise it when it is 100% solar.Yeah, buying a BEV for me has meant using much less power during the day. It changed me to time of use pricing which then changed my habits regarding things like running my pool filter or dishwasher.
Regardless, I'm surprised Tesla has the number of GWh delivered by superchargers in their demo room in Fremont, but doesn't seem to post it to the internet any more?
As for not advertising the number... maybe they're embarassed that the Supercharger power isn't 100% solar yet. After all, can't you just see the hostile hit pieces? "Superchargers burn XXX tons of coal, paid for by Tesla to support freeloading drivers!" Betcha they advertise it when it is 100% solar.