K-MTG
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I was contacted before regarding an issue I posted on the forum about my car and by tweeting Elon Musk. Tesla never told me to be silent or sign an NDA but my issues weren't at the extent of what the OP is dealing with.
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Theft Of Components Off My Model S @ Cleveland Service Center
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I was contacted before regarding an issue I posted on the forum about my car and by tweeting Elon Musk. Tesla never told me to be silent or sign an NDA but my issues weren't at the extent of what the OP is dealing with.
Nope, wouldn't do any good. Since the OP said the first thing Tesla did was turn off remote access.
that's why it's a good idea to root your car the moment you get it, though.
It's your car after all, so you should be in control at all times.
BTW, for people insisting that the OP must be a troll / making up the whole thing:
Joe Rinke
1) Very much a real person
2) Very much into Tesla, and regularly advocating for them (also has vids on YouTube).
Watch, for example, this video, starting at 22 seconds in and tell me that this isn't someone who loves their car:
I find it annoying that people always assume that anyone who says anything negative about Tesla is a troll. Tesla is not perfect. No car company is, or ever will be. Employees are human, and sometimes they will misbehave.
Joe Rinke
1) Very much a real person
2) Very much into Tesla, and regularly advocating for them (also has vids on YouTube).
Watch, for example, this video, starting at 22 seconds in and tell me that this isn't someone who loves their car:
I find it annoying that people always assume that anyone who says anything negative about Tesla is a troll. Tesla is not perfect. No car company is, or ever will be. Employees are human, and sometimes they will misbehave.
Ulmo
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Indeed, one way to make a company or people better is to inform them of problems. It doesn't always work, but for those who should survive, it often does.
JohnSnowNW
Active Member
To be fair, the majority of people were sympathising with him. The majority of those that weren't were awaiting more information before committing.
I, too, hate that Tesla draws trollish behavior, but it's difficult to fault people for being wary of first time posters...IMHO.
Joe already said he was contacted--said so way back near the beginning of the thread. Actually within hours of starting the thread (#29), "and it has already worked... they have already responded to the thread...". Helps to read all the posts.
Theft Of Components Off My Model S @ Cleveland Service Center
Theft Of Components Off My Model S @ Cleveland Service Center
Recording a private conversation without at least one person knowing about it is called eavesdropping and definitely illegal. Hiding a recording device in a car that goes to a shop is not at all a public place.
Recording in a public place is a totally different thing. You have to expect that other overhear your conversation so it's perfectly legal to record audio and video in the public.
Can't help wondering if the glass work was subcontracted out, like many regular car dealerships would do, and that is where the transgressions took place?
Actually it all depends on the state. IL has no expectation of privacy exception to its every party consent for audio recordings. They recently amended the law to ensure citizens could record police officers and other public officials but no other modifications were made. So if you recorded some public proceeding without everyone's consent, you've technically violated our eavesdropping laws even if no one had a legitimate or reasonable expectation of privacy.
You guys keep saying that, but in my view since 2015 or so at least, most often posts like this as well as leaks on TMC have been real and not fake. Maybe it was different in very early days of the stock.
Equally, most often the doubters have been proven wrong down the road. That said, I do agree in this thread the doubters have been a minority. That's a good thing.
As for waiting verification, that is always good. Some doubt is healthy. Saying we don't know if OP is faking, is perfectly fine. Saying that he is faking IMO is not wise. History has proven that approach so wrong so many times.
Remember Eds.
Like all these posts about catastrophic suspension failures - people say they are trolls, but the photos and recurrent pattern proves they are not.
It is the doubters that IMO feed the doubt. People just remember a lot of posters were doubted... what they don't seem to remember is that most posters these days seem to be, in the end, real.
Actually, feel free to point to any fake poster in the past year or two, of any significance. I'm sure there have been a few, but I can't recall any right of the top of my hat. I can recall many that were doubted but very completely real.
JohnSnowNW
Active Member
That's completely untrue. Not only has there not been a pattern of suspension failures, the failures that were more or less legitimate involved different components.
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People saying they are trolls is untrue?
Or the catastrophic suspension failures are untrue?
jacobp
Member
I think that those who have assumed the OP was lying, without any evidence whatsoever, tells us more about those people than anything else.
Which, of course, many more people would do if anybody who's done it was letting others know how.
(Yes, yes, I understand the reasoning for not publicly disclosing this)
jeffro01
Active Member
Oh really? Interesting... What exactly does that tell "us"? If you're going to take a back handed swipe at people like myself, at least have the courage to finish your thought...
I find it extraordinarily hard to believe that a Tesla owned service center STOLE things from a customer car, especially things like seats... I mean seriously people...??? Really??? You guys honestly think that Tesla stole the guys seats and did such a poor job doing so that they damaged the wiring???
At least the OP was willing to backup their claims unlike the other thread where the guy made wild accusations without any proof and people hopped on the bandwagon without any hesitation...
TMC is slowly turning from a Tesla enthusiasts site to a Tesla troll site...
Jeff
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