Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

[eduardoramundo]

This can't be right. Too many legacy chargeplace Scotland sites that would have to be converted. The law can only be applied to new sites. What would be the cut off date ?

They could reduce power to 49kw and then avoid the contactless rules.

Public Charge Point Regulations 2023 guidance

www.gov.uk

 

[qwickshot]

They could reduce power to 49kw and then avoid the contactless rules.

Public Charge Point Regulations 2023 guidance

www.gov.uk

Contactless is required for any charger >8kw.

 

[js_1428571]

"New public charge points of 8kW and above and existing charge points of 50 kW and above must offer contactless to consumers. Proprietary networks that open their charge points for public use will have one year from the date that the charge point becomes public to offer contactless." Reading this Tesla have until 24 November 2024 (or 1 year after it became available to all) to ensure any of their open to all EV chargers have contactless payments. Are they going to have to upgrade lots of V2/V3 to V4 (as these are the only ones currently with contactless) or will they just switch off the available to all evs option until they can do this? On a side note there is also a requirement for public charge points to have 99% uptime reliability standard. Enforcement can take the form of fines of up to £10,000

 

[Fursty Ferret]

Or they could revert all non-V4 chargers back to Tesla owners only, which would address the problem nicely.

 

[Derek25]

Or they could revert all non-V4 chargers back to Tesla owners only, which would address the problem nicely.

Or install one payment terminal at each site linked to all the stalls.

 

[Aliomenti]

And existing V2 sites... They have a year to convert them to V4 units else they will be in violation of the law (unless they close them to all EVs again).

I wonder what they will do with Maidstone as it’s a terrible plot of land to expand. Perhaps if they get Faversham open they will just close Maidstone. I’m surprised they haven’t looked at moving to the M20 J11 services.

 

[Fursty Ferret]

Incidentally, anyone seen any progress on Newport Pagnell northbound?

 

[Fred2]

Those regulations also say

A public charge point does not include:

• a workplace charge point that is not accessible to the general public at any time
• a charge point restricted for the exclusive use by:
  • vehicles produced by a specific manufacturer
  • people engaged in a specific occupation
  • occupiers of residential premises and their visitors

Which sounds like a Tesla only site would be fine.

 

[eduardoramundo]

Contactless is required for any charger >8kw.

“New public charge points of 8kW and above and existing charge points of 50 kW and above must offer contactless to consumers.”

So surely existing chargers under 50kw do not need contactless?

Therefore Chargeplace scotland could reduce power slightly before the regulations start and be exempt.

 

[Carts850]

ChargePlace Scotland are awful. They don't reply to emails. This is in the centre of Ayr. Like this for months.

 

[btc1k]

ChargePlace Scotland are awful. They don't reply to emails. This is in the centre of Ayr. Like this for months.

Socialism in action

 

[browellm]

Socialism in action

A broken charger? Are you OK hun? DM me babe

 

[Jason71]

Have I accidently strayed into the Charge Place Scotland Site complaints thread?
Kill me now.

 

[Sean.]

Or they could revert all non-V4 chargers back to Tesla owners only, which would address the problem nicely.

Wishful thinking. They won't do that.

Or install one payment terminal at each site linked to all the stalls.

The most probable way forward, much like IONITY have done, other than ripping and replacing V2 and V3 posts with V4's at sites which were already opened to the public on 24 November 2023*

*they have 12 months, after the date they opened to the pubic, for other V2/V3 sites to comply (like the big tranche of 20-something sites that opened a few months ago)

 

[Sean.]

There's a comment on the TOUK Facebook group from the original source about the Ferndown Forest SuC - apparently they've changed from Tesla to Osprey... so it looks like Dorset still isn't getting any SuCs sadly.

Just had a look on the Dorset Council planning portal, there's absolutely zero there with respect to ANY charging hubs at the FF Golf Course. There's a padel and pickleball courts application recently and some tree felling.

 

[FEERSUMENDJIN]

Or install one payment terminal at each site linked to all the stalls.

Anything opened before 24th November 2024 does not need to comply. No effect on current public Tesla superchargers.

 

[js_1428571]

Anything opened before 24th November 2024 does not need to comply. No effect on current public Tesla superchargers.

"New public charge points of 8kW and above and existing charge points of 50 kW and above must offer contactless to consumers."

 

[Sean.]

Anything opened before 24th November 2024 does not need to comply. No effect on current public Tesla superchargers.

Errr no my friend. Re-read the regulations.

 

[FEERSUMENDJIN]

Errr no my friend. Re-read the regulations.

I did post them earlier. Maybe you should post what you think states this.

 

[yessuz]

I did post them earlier. Maybe you should post what you think states this.

did english language change?

It literally means that every existing charger with output more than 50 kw must have contactless payment method - either per charger either per site.

Public Charge Point Regulations 2023 guidance

www.gov.uk

However, the caveat being that Tesla can just close the network and make it inaccessible to others...

also there is this one:

A public charge point may offer contactless alongside additional payment methods, such as an app or QR code

Would this mean that QR code/app like Tesla does now is ENOUGH? It says that contactless may be (nor that it is required) alongside QR code/app..