Autopilot a fraud? The linked author bets Elon he'll eat a hat if it changes lanes!

[wk057]

This guy is a trip. lol

 

[JohnSnowNW]

Mark Spiegel is now getting in on the action...they make quite the pair.

 

[EarlyAdopter]

It's sad to see someone so closed minded, unwilling to accept change and evaluate the world as it is, not as they wished it were.

On the flip side, makes me glad to know it's people like this who short Tesla stock.

 

[yo mama]

I don't mind that Schmitt has negative views of Tesla. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What bothers me is his inability to admit that he lost a silly bet.

Maybe we should nickname Bertel Schmitt "grapejuice" - because he welches.

 

[AmpedRealtor]

Their claims are way less out there than the ones Apple makes, relative to the product/service they're actually serving.[/COLOR]

Really? Apple makes misleading claims like Tesla? Can you point to any?

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This is what you understood: "engage the turn signal... when it's safe to do so"
This is what Tesla says: "Model S will move itself to the adjacent lane when it’s safe to do so"

Yup. You're quibbling about sentence structure. Thus, let's rewrite it so that we're both happy. "When it's safe to do so, engage the turn signal and Mode S will move itself into the adjacent lane." Does Tesla need a better copy writer? Perhaps. But let's not pull a hamstring stretching for untruth.

This isn't quibbling about sentence structure. Tesla clearly says the car will do it automatically and only when it's safe. That says to me that the driver DOESN'T have to check first. If it's a quibble, it's kind of a huge one.

 

[jgs]

Annnnnd ... now I'm blocked. For this!

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Very well said. The guy is a classic troll.

 

[Canuck]

Here you go Schmitt... now start eating!...

 

[dsm363]

He blocks people and then says 'they are too afraid to engage me' basically. Funny.

 

[jgs]

He blocks people and then says 'they are too afraid to engage me' basically. Funny.

Projection.

 

[Sigma4Life]

Really? Apple makes misleading claims like Tesla? Can you point to any?

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This isn't quibbling about sentence structure. Tesla clearly says the car will do it automatically and only when it's safe. That says to me that the driver DOESN'T have to check first. If it's a quibble, it's kind of a huge one.

Tesla's statement is 100% accurate. The car will not change lanes if it is not safe to do so. Activate auto-pilot and try switching lanes when it's not safe, such as when you are against the edge of the highway or a car is next to you. The car will ignore your request to switch lanes until it deems it safe to do so. When there is a safe amount of space and an actual lane to switch to the car will then change lanes.

This means the driver technically does not have to check first, but you're a complete moron and terrible driver if you don't. Tesla has stated repeatedly that the driver is still responsible when autopilot is enabled. That statement makes it crystal clear that the driver is responsible for initiating a safe lane change. The car is then responsible for executing it safely.

 

[dpodoll]

over time you will learn to trust it

 

[bonnie]

Journalist Who Announced Hed Eat A Hat If Tesla Autopilot Worked Decides... Mmm, Nah | CleanTechnica

So what’s the holdup? When’s this happening? Apparently, never, because (as the title of this article implies) the guy is trying to weasel his way out of it.

 

[ecarfan]

Thank you Bonnie! That is hilarious. [emoji2] That guy now really looks foolish.

Journalist Who Announced Hed Eat A Hat If Tesla Autopilot Worked Decides... Mmm, Nah | CleanTechnica

 

[jeffro01]

Nice... Thanks Bonnie!!!

When it comes to technology one should be exceedingly careful about their predictions and willingness to place bets regarding them...

Jeff

 

[Lanny]

BertelSchmitt: Attention @elonmusk child soldiers: I will eat my hat when your leader eats his Tesla's Elon Musk Pledges to "Eat His Hat"

 

[bonnie]

Well that's progress of sorts. At least he's acknowledging that he SHOULD eat his hat. He's just coming up with excuses to avoid it.

 

[stopcrazypp]

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BertelSchmitt: Attention @elonmusk child soldiers: I will eat my hat when your leader eats his Tesla's Elon Musk Pledges to "Eat His Hat"

Did Elon even lose there though? By the time the first Model S rolled off the line, was the spend on Model S development over $700 million already? I'm not sure that is true.

Edit: dug up old thread where actually I was quoted, and where it is suggested Elon did not lose the bet:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/7294-Model-S-development-costs-so-far

 

[yo mama]

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BertelSchmitt: Attention @elonmusk child soldiers: I will eat my hat when your leader eats his Tesla's Elon Musk Pledges to "Eat His Hat"

"Child soldiers?" I don't think that phrase means what he thinks it means.

 

[JohnSnowNW]

I was going to respond to the most recent tweet, but he has likewise banned me. Guy has some serious issues.

 

[doug]

Did Elon even lose there though? By the time the first Model S rolled off the line, was the spend on Model S development over $700 million already? I'm not sure that is true.

Edit: dug up old thread where actually I was quoted, and where it is suggested Elon did not lose the bet:
http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/7294-Model-S-development-costs-so-far

Yeah, I had mentioned that up thread. The thing is we don't really know. Not sure Tesla ever said, but when I added up what I could back then, if it wasn't above $700M it seemed fairly close, as far as I can recall.