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Wiki Everything you wanted to know about Intelligent Octopus But Were Afraid To Ask

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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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Connecting a Tesla to Intelligent Octopus / Octopus Intelligent Go when there is more than one / two / multiple Teslas on the account

This is more awkward since the change to 'Virtual Keys', but is still possible (at least - it worked for my test charge this afternoon). It may be possible to do with one phone, but I would highly recommend using a spare / someone else's phone for the process. That's because if you sign out of the Tesla account on your main phone you will lose all your car links - so will have to re-pair with the cars to get them to unlock etc and that's dull. Apologies if I miss anything - I didn't make notes at the time. This was all done on Android devices - I don't know whether the process would be the same on iDevices. You'll also need to have a physical Key card available.

If the Tesla account used with IO has more than one car 'in' it then the process will fail. Therefore we need to make another account (on the app on a spare phone).
Once that 'TeslaIO' account has been created (using a different email address & password from the main account of course) then on the Tesla app on the 'main' phone you go to 'Manage Drivers' and add a driver. That creates an invitation to only that car. Copy the invitation and send it to the 'spare' phone (via email / text / virtual carrier pigeon). Click on it on the 'spare' phone and it should add only that car to the TeslaIO account which is on that spare phone. I can't remember if there are any confirmation actions during that process - I did it a while ago.

I don't know whether at this point it's a requirement to link that 'spare' phone to the car as a Key - I did it, but I don't know if the next steps will work if I hadn't. If you want to (or if it doesn't work without) then it's done in the app as usual.

In the past it was then possible to login to that account on your main phone as part of the IO sign-up process, but that doesn't work any more. So next you need to install the Octopus Energy app on the 'spare' phone as well. Login to your Octopus account on there, and follow the 'Add a Device / Car' process in the Octopus account on the spare phone.
Once you've leapt through the username / password / 2FA number hoops it'll jump to the Tesla app (still on the spare phone) and asks something about the Virtual Key - something along the lines of 'only the owner can add a virtual key'. It then gives an option to confirm the action with a key card. Click that, and the app will encourage you to put the key card on the centre console in the usual place. Once you put the key card there a message comes up on the car screen asking to confirm adding a virtual key. That confirmed and gave me a 'success' message.

It should then be fine - if you need to - to delete the Tesla and Octopus apps from the spare / borrowed phone - as far as I know there should be no need to repeat the process until the next time either Octopus or Tesla change their sign-in systems!

Hope this helps someone - it's faffy but means that one car (the higher mileage one) can use the IO system while the other just charges during the 'normal' off-peak. Let me know if I've got any of it wrong and I'll update.
 
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That’s all spot on but you don’t need a spare phone, got it working by using the same phone and swapping between accounts.

That said, it took my a while to find where they moved the sign out link in the Tesla app…

Re: setting up the phone key before you set up the virtual key, you will have to do that otherwise it’ll fail and you’ll get an error message in the Tesla app.
 
That’s all spot on but you don’t need a spare phone, got it working by using the same phone and swapping between accounts.

That said, it took my a while to find where they moved the sign out link in the Tesla app…

Re: setting up the phone key before you set up the virtual key, you will have to do that otherwise it’ll fail and you’ll get an error message in the Tesla app.
Good to know - thanks for that. If it'll let me edit I'll adjust the post to reflect the phone key info. Good to know about the single phone too - I thought that would disconnect the phone key connections, but great news if not.
 
Good to know - thanks for that. If it'll let me edit I'll adjust the post to reflect the phone key info. Good to know about the single phone too - I thought that would disconnect the phone key connections, but great news if not.
Signing out in the Tesla app will delete the phone key linked to that account. Not the end of the world, but it does mean you’d need to set it up again when you log back into the original account.
 
Nor me.. I've been trying for 7 hours. Done everything I can think of. The only time I can get the Octopus app to work is to set the car charging then do the test charge.. this gets the app working normally and it does connect with the car .. it senses the SOC but doesn't control the charging... it can't start or stop charging.
 
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I have android and I think I've found a way to fix it but you need access to a pc and/or just use the pic below.
Type the address into your PC or try scanning the QR code below, with your phone, I'm not sure if its specific to the vehicle. Providing you have the Tesla app open on the phone it should generate a virtual key and allow you past the blockage above. Manually start the car charging and then do a test charge.. the car should connect to the app.. I had to scan the QR code a second time before it worked for me.. Hopefully it will work for you.
Please let me know if it does?
Please see my "Help please" thread.
Thanks


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@Lord Farquad @Yuff @Obie @bainsy
I have android and I think I've found a way to fix it but you need access to a pc and/or just use the pic below.
Type the address into your PC or try scanning the QR code below, with your phone, I'm not sure if its specific to the vehicle. Providing you have the Tesla app open on the phone it should generate a virtual key and allow you past the blockage above. Manually start the car charging and then do a test charge.. the car should connect to the app.. I had to scan the QR code a second time before it worked for me.. Hopefully it will work for you.
Please let me know if it does?
Please see my "Help please" thread.
Thanks


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I’m on IOS.

I’ve managed to reconnect back to my car.
I completely started the process again and made sure I had WiFi connected to the car.

Worked like usual after the second go. Took some time to test the charge, but did it in the end.
 
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