FSD Beta v11.x

sleepydoc · Dec 17, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
When did I say I wasn’t responsible for it?

I said it sucks. Both can be true at the same time.

You just seem to be blaming Tesla for it in your posts.

LowlyOilBurner · Dec 17, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
I never trusted curbs on my USS 3 for that reason and now I know not to trust Vision parking either.

Yeah, this exactly. I’ve had USS on my last two Y’s, never trusted them. Had two Volvos with bird’s eye 360deg camera setups and USS, never trusted those either, still bumped curbs.

mtndrew1 · Dec 17, 2023

sleepydoc said:
You just seem to be blaming Tesla for it in your posts.

At this point I regret even sharing my experience due to the wrath of the fanboys.

Tesla deployed a new feature. I stupidly tried to use their new feature despite six years of experience with their dodgy software and I damaged my car. That’s my story, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

TK211X · Dec 17, 2023

.1 May be dead? Not seeing any new drip of pending. .2 is still getting topped up through.

mtndrew1 said:
At this point I regret even sharing my experience due to the wrath of the fanboys.

Tesla deployed a new feature. I stupidly tried to use their new feature despite six years of experience with their dodgy software and I damaged my car. That’s my story, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Thank you for sharing. Stay positive. Try not to post a picture of yourself and your car with coordinates.

mtndrew1 · Dec 17, 2023

TK211X said:
.1 May be dead? Not seeing any new drip of pending. .2 is still getting topped up through.

Thank you for sharing. Stay positive. Try not to post a picture of yourself and your car with coordinates.

The coordinates are nowhere near my home nor do they represent a place I regularly visit.

My face is best used for radio.

jebinc · Dec 17, 2023

TK211X said:
Omg you weren’t joking.

Taking bets for .4

.5j

jebinc · Dec 17, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
At this point I regret even sharing my experience due to the wrath of the fanboys.

Tesla deployed a new feature. I stupidly tried to use their new feature despite six years of experience with their dodgy software and I damaged my car. That’s my story, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Elon/Tesla fervor has reached a fever pitch, it seems, since that Cybertruck delivery spectacle.

WilliamG · Dec 17, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
At this point I regret even sharing my experience due to the wrath of the fanboys.

Tesla deployed a new feature. I stupidly tried to use their new feature despite six years of experience with their dodgy software and I damaged my car. That’s my story, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

I for one am glad you shared your experience.

JHCCAZ · Dec 17, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
At this point I regret even sharing my experience due to the wrath of the fanboys.

Well I for one appreciate the information, it seems that in retrospect you have a reasonably balanced view of the incident.

mtndrew1 said:
Tesla deployed a new feature. I stupidly tried to use their new feature despite six years of experience with their dodgy software and I damaged my car. That’s my story, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

I'm probably more in the fanboy camp than in the junk camp, but I think the correct view is somewhere in between. This is clearly a complex system in development, and it's wise to experiment with new capabilities very cautiously. Your experience underscores that but I don't blame you for understandable frustration.

It's true that most car companies (and their leaders) wouldn't have proceeded in this way, and it's also true that no other car company has, or would have, been capable of the forward progress that Tesla has made in several key technologies. The same comments definitely apply to SpaceX, so this is not a fluke or a coincidence.

Anyway, as you think about the incident further, please do share any further thoughts you have about why it went wrong, what the visualizations can tell you or not tell you etc. It doesn't have to be all one way or the other, and it's helpful despite the unfortunate reality of your case.

Regarding the sensor suite:
As others have pointed out, the USS sensors were great as far as they would go, but they didn't really tell us much about curbs, thin poles and other problems.

I'm long on record regarding disagreement with the camera placements, and I think it would have taken only 1 or 2 extra cameras, combined with more thoughtful placement of the existing number. But it's late in the game now, and would be extremely difficult for Tesla to change the existing ones in the next model - it might take 2 or 3 extras if existing ones aren't to be moved. Mostly I worry about cross-traffic visualizations, but parking lots are also important. The back half of the car has pretty good camera coverage down to the curbs, but the front half does not.

Supcom · Dec 17, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
At this point I regret even sharing my experience due to the wrath of the fanboys.

Tesla deployed a new feature. I stupidly tried to use their new feature despite six years of experience with their dodgy software and I damaged my car. That’s my story, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Thanks for the warning. Sorry that you had to speak from a bad experience, though.

Mardak · Dec 17, 2023

And the 11.4.9 rollout continues with 2023.44.30.3 with 42 pending on TeslaFi and Teslascope showing these previous versions getting it:

Code:

2023.44.1    17
2023.44.30.1  5
2023.44.30.2  4
2023.38.9     1
2023.27.7     1

It'll be interesting if these include US HW4 vehicles as .2 HW4 vehicles were all outside North America.

Rollout of 2023.44.30.2 has also increased too with 942 pending on TeslaFi and nearly a total of 1400 including installed. Teslascope showing most are coming from 2023.44.1, so not just upgrading vehicles already on some 2023.44.30.x.

Supcom · Dec 17, 2023

Mardak said:
And the 11.4.9 rollout continues with 2023.44.30.3 with 42 pending on TeslaFi and Teslascope showing these previous versions getting it:

Code:

2023.44.1 17 2023.44.30.1 5 2023.44.30.2 4 2023.38.9 1 2023.27.7 1

It'll be interesting if these include US HW4 vehicles as .2 HW4 vehicles were all outside North America.

Rollout of 2023.44.30.2 has also increased too with 942 pending on TeslaFi and nearly a total of 1400 including installed. Teslascope showing most are coming from 2023.44.1, so not just upgrading vehicles already on some 2023.44.30.x.

.3 is starting to rollout as well, with cars coming from .1. Methinks this holiday update has been a bit of a problem for Tesla. I wonder what the issues are to cause such quick fixes?

Mardak · Dec 17, 2023

Supcom said:
Methinks this holiday update has been a bit of a problem for Tesla. I wonder what the issues are to cause such quick fixes?

It still seems like iterative additions of capability. TeslaFi is showing the first install of 11.4.9 on a US HW4 2023 Model X with 2023.44.30.3. Previously .2 only included non-US HW4, and .1 didn't even include S/X Refresh. For example, Tesla might have been evaluating high fidelity park assist on HW3 with .1 then HW4 with .2, and now park assist + FSD Beta on HW4 with .3.

Additionally, with .1 and .2 rollout increasing, it would seem like Tesla is okay with those versions going to wider audiences of those compatible vehicles. Still missing are older vehicles without Autopilot or with HW1 (but MCU upgraded).

Supcom · Dec 17, 2023

Mardak said:
It still seems like iterative additions of capability. TeslaFi is showing the first install of 11.4.9 on a US HW4 2023 Model X with 2023.44.30.3. Previously .2 only included non-US HW4, and .1 didn't even include S/X Refresh. For example, Tesla might have been evaluating high fidelity park assist on HW3 with .1 then HW4 with .2, and now park assist + FSD Beta on HW4 with .3.

Additionally, with .1 and .2 rollout increasing, it would seem like Tesla is okay with those versions going to wider audiences of those compatible vehicles. Still missing are older vehicles without Autopilot or with HW1 (but MCU upgraded).

Cars getting .3 include cars that already got .1, which tells me that .1 had some priority bugs that needed fixed.

MarcG · Dec 17, 2023

TK211X said:
Omg you weren’t joking.

Taking bets for .4

That was an easy bet
TeslaFi just detected .4

WilliamG · Dec 17, 2023

MarcG said:
That was an easy bet
TeslaFi just detected .4

Tesla in frantic mode.

Yelobird · Dec 17, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
When did I say I wasn’t responsible for it?

I said it sucks. Both can be true at the same time.

I do appreciate you sharing the images as we wait but do question why the first test you would do is on a circular curb that most would have trouble with in most cases with or without assistance? As a first release a simple parallel park or straight street might of been a less “complicated” test.

rlsd · Dec 17, 2023

MarcG said:
That was an easy bet
TeslaFi just detected .4

That will be good for me. My car has not been updated yet.

rlsd · Dec 17, 2023

WilliamG said:
Tesla in frantic mode.

We have 12 days of Christmas.

WilliamG · Dec 17, 2023

rlsd said:
We have 12 days of Christmas.

I'd take just one...

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