FSD Beta v11.x

MP3Mike · Dec 13, 2023

sleepydoc said:
huh? They want to make drivers responsible but the problem is it still makes drivers responsible?

I think the issue is that it will still let people use Autosteer on streets that Tesla says it isn't designed for. They want Tesla to lock it to only be used on controlled access freeways with no traffic controls/intersections.

BBTX · Dec 13, 2023

And Tesla's probably just trying to keep kicking the can down the road and buy time. That's their basic game-plan: the more time they buy, eventually v13 of FSD or whatever will be so amazing that it's clearly safer and superior, and all the autopilot/tacc stuff can switch to using it as well (they'll become basically software-limited FSD that is every bit as smart, but refuses to do certain things you didn't pay for), and that all this scrutiny will then just go away. Of course, if that never happens, then all of this is eventually going to catch up to them...

sleepydoc · Dec 13, 2023

MP3Mike said:
I think the issue is that it will still let people use Autosteer on streets that Tesla says it isn't designed for. They want Tesla to lock it to only be used on controlled access freeways with no traffic controls/intersections.

Still makes no sense to me. They’re blaming Tesla for driver stupidity. Maybe they should look at the drivers.

Twiglett · Dec 13, 2023

Interesting datapoint for 11.4.8.1 from my TeslaFi, it looks like my FSDb drives are less economical than previous versions.
It’s noticeably smoother but seems to consume more power. Too many variables to be sure though

Also, it was raining this morning and the WIPERS WORKED!!!

JulienW · Dec 13, 2023

I hate to say anything for fear of jinxing myself but I have not had any dry wipes (11.4.7.3) in over a week now. Wonder if maybe Tesla sent out a Delta update to at least potentially address the wiper problem? Sounds crazy but one can hope.

uscbucsfan · Dec 13, 2023

JulienW said:
I hate to say anything for fear of jinxing myself but I have not had any dry wipes (11.4.7.3) in over a week now. Wonder if maybe Tesla sent out a Delta update to at least potentially address the wiper problem? Sounds crazy but one can hope.

I was driving on 11.4.7.3 in the pouring rain and my wipers wiped once. Had to switch to manual.

JulienW · Dec 13, 2023

uscbucsfan said:
I was driving on 11.4.7.3 in the pouring rain and my wipers wiped once. Had to switch to manual.

STOP crushing my wild implausible fantasy.

archae86 · Dec 13, 2023

Twiglett said:
Interesting datapoint for 11.4.8.1 from my TeslaFi, it looks like my FSDb drives are less economical than previous versions.
It’s noticeably smoother but seems to consume more power. Too many variables to be sure though

Also, it was raining this morning and the WIPERS WORKED!!!

Given the time of the year, an obvious secular change candidate is temperature. Conveniently, Teslafi gives an indication of outside temperature for a drive. Worth thinking about?

Twiglett · Dec 13, 2023

archae86 said:
Given the time of the year, an obvious secular change candidate is temperature. Conveniently, Teslafi gives an indication of outside temperature for a drive. Worth thinking about?

yeah this is Texas though, so it was 35 one day and 78 the next

Like I said, too many variables it was just something I noticed.

Of course having mentioned the wipers, on the drive home today with intermittent rain, the wipers quit working again.

rlsd · Dec 13, 2023

I still don't have 11.4.8.1. Will it be in the "recall" update in the next few days? I need to go to LAX next week with it.

TK211X · Dec 13, 2023

rlsd said:
I still don't have 11.4.8.1. Will it be in the "recall" update in the next few days? I need to go to LAX next week with it.

Need is such a funny word.

MP3Mike · Dec 13, 2023

rlsd said:
I still don't have 11.4.8.1. Will it be in the "recall" update in the next few days? I need to go to LAX next week with it.

Legally I don't think Tesla can push any software updates that don't include the recall fix. So you have zero chance of getting 11.4.8.1.

Beyond that I don't expect the recall to actually go out in the next few days. When it does start it will be to limited hardware configurations, HW3+ and in-cabin camera first. (Probably non-FSDb users or at least not early access FSDb users.)

Holiday update schedule has been crushed.

Tronguy · Dec 13, 2023

rlsd said:
I still don't have 11.4.8.1. Will it be in the "recall" update in the next few days? I need to go to LAX next week with it.

Read the actual recall notice. They're claiming it's 2023.44.30 and that cars coming off the production line this very minute have it.

They also claim that updates are going out as of 12/12/2023, but Teslafi doesn't have a peep about that.

rlsd · Dec 13, 2023

MP3Mike said:
Legally I don't think Tesla can push any software updates that don't include the recall fix. So you have zero chance of getting 11.4.8.1.

Beyond that I don't expect the recall to actually go out in the next few days. When it does start it will be to limited hardware configurations, HW3+ and in-cabin camera first. (Probably non-FSDb users or at least not early access FSDb users.)

Holiday update schedule has been crushed.

Tesla says the recall will be in version 2023.44.30 shortly after Dec 12. That includes HW3 and HW4. I have HW3 with in cabin camera. The question is which FSD version I will have. I currently have 2023.27.7 with FSD 11.4.7.3.

"At no cost to customers, affected vehicles will receive an over-the-air software remedy, which is expected to begin deploying to certain affected vehicles on or shortly after December 12, 2023, with software version 2023.44.30. These include vehicles equipped with an in-cabin camera and Autopilot Hardware 3.0 or Autopilot Hardware 4.0. Remaining affected vehicles, including vehicles equipped with Autopilot Hardware 3.0 but without an in-cabin camera and vehicles equipped with Autopilot Hardware 2.5, Autopilot Hardware 2.0 or Autopilot Hardware 1.0, will receive an over-the-air software remedy at a later date. Learn more about Autopilot hardware configurations and features."

https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-firmware-prevent-autosteer-misuse

MP3Mike · Dec 13, 2023

rlsd said:
Tesla says the recall will be in version 2023.44.30 shortly after Dec 12.

But they say that only applies to certain affected vehicles, not all that meet the hardware requirements.

I think those of us on 2023.27.x will get a different version.

MP3Mike · Dec 13, 2023

Tronguy said:
They also claim that updates are going out as of 12/12/2023, but Teslafi doesn't have a peep about that.

Stats app has started seeing it:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1735090482060104053

jebinc · Dec 13, 2023

Tronguy said:
Read the actual recall notice. They're claiming it's 2023.44.30 and that cars coming off the production line this very minute have it.

They also claim that updates are going out as of 12/12/2023, but Teslafi doesn't have a peep about that.

What about the EAP FSD beta tester stuck on 2023.27 for six months?! BOHICA.

uscbucsfan · Dec 13, 2023

jebinc said:
What about the EAP FSD beta tester stuck on 2023.27 for six months?! BOHICA.

I think this means a new version!

jebinc · Dec 13, 2023

uscbucsfan said:
I think this means a new version!

2923.27.30, got it.

EVNow · Dec 13, 2023

MP3Mike said:
Legally I don't think Tesla can push any software updates that don't include the recall fix.

That doesn't make sense. That's like saying Toyota dealers can't make any service appointments that don't include the recall.

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