DanCar
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Is it better or worse than V11?
Just trolling. The real answer is it doesn't matter. Both have years of work to perfect.
Just trolling. The real answer is it doesn't matter. Both have years of work to perfect.
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Yes.Is it better or worse than V11?
Just trolling. The real answer is it doesn't matter. Both have years of work to perfect.
As is ALWAYS the case... Highly variable, not reliable or predictable - just "different". Sadly, this has been the case from day #1...Yes.
The first right sure rolls like a human (if it was v12).
This is a disqualifying move. Keep the testing in house with paid professional drivers.Haste makes waste. V12.2.1 attempts to go around a long line of vehicles on a blind curve.
For that specific example, it looks like you have plenty of room to turn in at the dotted line?For all the "never cross" a double yellow liners how do you handle the following 2 scenarios, both from this morning (sorry, shi$$y HW3 camera)?
In the first I'm turning into a mall (FSD disengaged for safety) and you must use the VERY top part of the left turn lane. If FSD 11.x does it (only if no one is turning in front of me or coming up behind for safety) it passes the yellow and then angles in and leaves its a$$ dangerously blocking the left lane. And of course with a car turning in front on me there is 0 choice other than to pass up the turn completely.
For this example it looks like you can straddle the double yellow without fully crossing.In the 2ed FSD engaged and double parked cars 100% of the time from early morning to late evening (privileged golf course). So what to do? Stop in the road and wait 10 hours for the spaces to clear?
I encourage you to flag down a police officer (I usually find them at local gas stations) and ask them your questions. You can also call your local police station and ask for a traffic officer, then ask your questions.For all the "never cross" a double yellow liners how do you handle the following 2 scenarios, both from this morning (sorry, shi$$y HW3 camera)?
In the first I'm turning into a mall (FSD disengaged for safety) and you must use the VERY top part of the left turn lane. If FSD 11.x does it (only if no one is turning in front of me or coming up behind for safety) it passes the yellow and then angles in and leaves its a$$ dangerously blocking the left lane. And of course with a car turning in front on me there is 0 choice other than to pass up the turn completely.
In the 2ed FSD engaged and double parked cars 100% of the time from early morning to late evening (privileged golf course). So what to do? Stop in the road and wait 10 hours for the spaces to clear?
What do you think of the argument that partial self driving (PSD) saves lives? In other words the statistics show you are safer using PSD than not? PSD has data to prove it is safer than not using.This is a disqualifying move. Keep the testing in house with paid professional drivers.
I don't want some casual owner to be checking their mirror and then this happens, crashing head on into my kids.
I'm done with Tesla and this smoke and mirrors charade. Turn it all off before more people get killed.
Seriously, people, we've lost all context here. FSD is patently unsafe.
1. Does v12 have MLC (Minimize Lane Changes)? Either in the menu, or I use the left scroll wheel to the left or right to change profiles (Chill, Average, Assertive), and I enable MLCBad
1. Changed its mind at very last minute to take an exit off Hwy 101 and turned at last instant while on exit ramp to get back on hwy. Was startling.
2. Did not follow map as expected which was to go straight on a wide city street with 2 straight lanes and 3 left turn lanes. It inappropriately and suddenly got into the middle left turn lane even though I and the map did not want it to go there.
3. Turns blinkers on way too early before turns.
4. And of course last but not least (not Tesla fault) the too long stop at stop signs.
Was it like the example I shared where it turned on the blinker and even tried getting into the wrong turn pocket? Or is the concern that say a right turn blinker is on approaching an intersection but there's say a parking lot with people potentially confused by your early turn signal?3. Turns blinkers on way too early before turns.
Is PSD something new? I have not heard of this.What do you think of the argument that partial self driving (PSD) saves lives?
The types of problems 12.x fixes or even regresses have indeed been around for a long time. Some things like incorrectly/unsafely passing stopped traffic was especially bad in some 10.x versions that were improved with later versions. I'm not sure if people experienced this particular issue in 11.x where explicit control logic might have prevented this behavior but then required a disengagement to go around actually parked vehicles?As is ALWAYS the case... Highly variable, not reliable or predictable - just "different". Sadly, this has been the case from day #1...
He may have meant ADASIs PSD something new? I have not heard of this.
Seems like multiple aspects that it failed to consider although at the moment of turning on the signal to change lanes, the more central camera view probably couldn't see either the black oncoming vehicle (occluded by the lead truck) or the silver vehicle behind it (occluded by the hill):V12.2.1 attempts to go around a long line of vehicles on a blind curve
Looks pretty good! That shooting into traffic lanes with oncoming traffic is pretty bold! We’ll see if it results in any honking or evasive maneuvers!
Partial self driving (PSD) is a better description than the false: full self driving.He may have meant ADAS