willow_hiller
Well-Known Member
I wish there was a facepalm reaction to posts. Is this man holding his phone to film while he's driving?
No wonder he got into that fender bender in the first place.
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd hard and late braking fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
I wish there was a facepalm reaction to posts. Is this man holding his phone to film while he's driving?
No wonder he got into that fender bender in the first place.
zoomer0056
Active Member
Oops, I should’ve mentioned that my m3 is in California. My Mx in Oregon has not gotten the 12 update yet.
Mallet...... I need a mallet and to find this guy.
This Ned Flanders dude who is holding his phone while driving and getting pinged by the system for it is going to cause another accident and cause another delay.
j0shm1lls
Member
Need to put this guy on the 'last to get updates' list.
That was kind of a mess. It looked like a last second Nav set up for the right lane change and turn. And the UI blind spot pop up disappeared quick for the right lane change turn signal and coincidentally displayed the red-edge caution (arguably not appropriate for that case).
Hard to tell with the camera movement but it appears FSD wasn't courteous to the woman in the parking lot about to walk across.
He didn't cause the delay. V12 driving into a parked car did that.
He's the representative idiot that tesla is using to see if V12 is idiot-proof. As such he needs to be on the "first to be updated" list, not last.
V12 is NOT driving. It is assisting. If you ALLOW V12 to hit a car you are the driver.
Unless we all need to say "V12 assisted me to the store" rather than use the D word, we probably don't need to get back into this issue for the next N pages (where N is a large integer)
V12 is full self driving! It is the cat's meow, the cherry on the top of the sundae, it is proof FSD is basically L4 capable, it is the future of driving, it will drive up the tesla stock price, it will prove naysayers like me that Elon is not full of it and it won't be another two weeks.
It is clear that there are people on TMC who say FSD is driving well when it isn't obviously nearly crashing into stuff, and that the driver is the one driving when FSD hits things.
You and I both know that legally the person behind the wheel, or at least the person that is supposed to be behind the wheel, is the one 'driving' but the software is still making decisions to drive into things and if Elon and his minions keep overhyping the reliability of the system, and then putting it in the hands of idiots like this guy who treat V12 the way Elon messages it can be treated, then V12 has to be made idiot proof. Period.
It is obviously far from it, still not to be trusted and so the great experiment continues testing using untrained (and untrainable) idiots and involving the unsuspecting general public who never agreed to be part of this testing.
FSDtester#1
Craves Electrolytes
Wrong, you must be new to fsdb. Tesla was clear with all new testers, that we are responsible, not the car. Your post is very irresponsible and can lead to people being complacent, which could cause accidents, injuries or worse. "Idiots", should not have a driver's license. Here is the email Tesla sent us almost 3 years ago:
Hello,
We will be pushing FSD Beta Version 10.2 to your vehicle shortly!
Full Self-Driving is in limited early access Beta and must be used with additional caution. It may do the wrong thing at the worst time, so you must always keep your hands on the wheel and pay extra attention to the road. Do not become complacent. When Full Self-Driving Beta is enabled, your vehicle will make lane changes off highway, select forks to follow your navigation route, navigate around other vehicles and objects, and make left and right turns. Use Full Self-Driving Beta only if you will pay constant attention to the road, and be prepared to act immediately, especially around blind corners, crossing intersections, and in narrow driving situations. Every driver is responsible for remaining alert and active when using Autopilot and must be prepared to take action at any time.
As part of receiving FSD Beta, your vehicle has automatically opted into VIN associated telemetry sharing with Tesla, including Autopilot usage data, images and/or video. If you wish to be removed from the limited early access FSD Beta please email [email protected]
Your vehicle is running on Tesla Vision! Note that Tesla Vision also includes some temporary limitations, as noted below:
Follow distance is limited to 2-7.
Autopilot top speed is 80 mph.
How to provide feedback:
Press the "Video Record" button on the top bar UI to send an Autopilot Snapshot video clip.
Clips are automatically sent to the engineering team. You will not be able to view the clip.
You can email your feedback to [email protected].
In your email please include date, time, location, and if you took an Autopilot Snapshot. This helps us investigate issues, and better understand your feedback.
Thanks,
The Tesla Team
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v12.3 solved one big issue for me - residential speeds coming off a main feeder street. v11 would fly into the neighborhood at 45, as that's the speed before the residential street begins. Now v12.3 crosses the intersection and holds a slow speed of about 20mph.
Note: I'm using the new auto speed setting
Note: I'm using the new auto speed setting
So if FSDb wasn't responsible for the crash, why was deployment delayed until a new version could come out "because of a collision" and Teslarati reported the collision was the parking lot event.
I say it is irresponsible to place all responsibility for faulty FSDb behaviour solely on the untrained beta test driver and none to the corporation producing the misleadingly named software and doing all its beta testing on a general public who did not agree to be part of the experiment or were even informed they were to be part of the experiment.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
FSD beta makes it easier to exit parking lots. Sometimes a little too easy.
FACT: FSD Beta V11/12 is a L2 system 100% of the time it is engaged[full stop]. NEVER is it L3 of higher at any time it is used. Here is official SAE info on what L2 does and it is CLEARLY spelled out on what the driver is responsible for.
"You ARE Driving whenever" FSD Beta is engaged.
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AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
Thankfully not v12; this just shows the need for v12 ASAP.
Looks to me like FSD may have stopped (way too late), then some skillful accelerator pedal application (easy to do, especially with some pucker!) finished the job. Looks like Obstacle Aware Acceleration saved the day; a relatively trivial repair job - I’d be surprised if it were north of $30k.
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gottagofast
2022 Model 3 Performance
Everybody got it. You didn't? Call Elon at 1-800-420-0069 and he will answer.
jeewee3000
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