The Tesla engineers just stated that they won't do a tri motor Model 3 because the motors would be "hard to fit" in the Jay Leno video.
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Model 3 Highland Performance/Plaid Speculation [Car announced 04.23.2024]
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That is max discharge value. The car can't hit those numbers. Those are just theoretical maximums. I have seen 629 Hp as a max discharge value but the car itself can only output about 600 HP in real time under optimal conditions. Typically my max discharge values are well below 600 HP and actual values are much less. Those are also values at the battery. There are a lot of losses through the motors and then to the wheels.
Remember, in an EV power in the battery is like power in the gas of an ICE vehicle. Power at the battery is not power at the motor. There are losses between the two.
Knightshade
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Not sure I understand you... those were observed on the canbus as live numbers when doing a floored run in the car, not theoretical ones.
In fact you, specifically, discussed these #s with me almost 1.5 years ago here:
670hp Model 3? Possible?
MotorMatchup says 514 HP and 516 LB FT torque and they get identical times from the 60’ time to 1/4 mile with what I consistently get at the track. However, they are using the vehicle weight without driver I believe. If you factored in the extra 200 lbs for the driver I think that the realistic...
teslamotorsclub.com
I understand there's drivetrain losses-- I specifically point that out in asking if you were talking wheel or motor numbers because there's loss in between.
Wugz said:
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WUGZ said:
Last little unofficial china leak I saw was that they were shooting for simultaneous release with production ramping in March in both Fremont and Shanghai for 2Q release. With that said, I won't be surprised if Fremont needs more time.
Also, I'm seeing more chatter about front bumper cameras coming for S/X/3 soon with Y later this year.
This is a quick and dirty power curve I was able to generate of a model X LR
And an attempt to work backwards to RPM since the gear ratios are different and the X has different diameter front and rear tires
I suspect the front motor is being limited pretty significantly at lower speeds
Sweed269
Member
So he is stating real time battery numbers there. That is fine but the actual numbers at the motor and at the wheels are significantly less. If the motors were producing 500 HP in the Model 3 LR with Boost then the vehicle would be way quicker than it is. 0-60 mph with 500 HP would be closer to 3.4 seconds or less. With 450 HP 3.7 sounds about right. 4.2 is reasonable for right at 400 HP.Not sure I understand you... those were observed on the canbus as live numbers when doing a floored run in the car, not theoretical ones.
In fact you, specifically, discussed these #s with me almost 1.5 years ago here:
670hp Model 3? Possible?
MotorMatchup says 514 HP and 516 LB FT torque and they get identical times from the 60’ time to 1/4 mile with what I consistently get at the track. However, they are using the vehicle weight without driver I believe. If you factored in the extra 200 lbs for the driver I think that the realistic...
I understand there's drivetrain losses-- I specifically point that out in asking if you were talking wheel or motor numbers because there's loss in between.
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Well, here's the thing...........peak numbers for the P as I stated above are 520/650 at the wheels. However, these cars ramp in the power from 0-40 MPH, and depending on the curve of that ramp, acceleration can vary quite a bit between the LR, LR AB, and P, all with the same battery and motors. The Plaid does the same thing, power is ramped in from 0-70 MPH, then HP is maintained as torque drops with RPM. Peak horsepower doesn't tell the whole story.
The usual outlets are running with it.
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Jeremy3292
Active Member
Please have a 19” rim option. 20” rims on a sedan are *ridiculous*
18s too if they clear the brakes.
Tesla already does this with the Model 3 and Model S with their track packs.
Model 3 Performance certification is leaked in South Korea it seems. Since it is rumor and I am nobody, take this information with a grain of salt.
It is going to be dual motor awd with 215ps front motor and 412ps rear motor. So if calculation is correct, it is going to have 618hp.
domestic/import: import
import company: Tesla Korea Inc.
manufacturer: Tesla Motors
manufactured country: China
car name: Model 3 Performance
fuel: electricity
car type: 003
motor type: 3D3 (front), 4D2(rear)
car type: car(small)
max output: 215ps (front), 412ps (rear), 6625rpm (front), 8000rpm (rear)
battery voltage: 355V
transmission: automatic
Gross weight/weight: 2180kg, 1844kg
message: need to confirm emission and noise certification
issue:
comment: high temp: city: 444.195km (276mi), highway: 412.07km (256mi), overall 429.739km (267mi)
low temp: city: 321.593km (199mi), highway: 402.739km (250mi), overall 358.109km (222mi)
Edit 1: Based on specs on the rumor, it is going to be 82kwh battery.
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Jeremy3292
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cptnslo
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According to this he says ~2.2 tons which is about 4500 not sure how accurate he is though.
