I’ve been trying to toast them since the end of June but they all avoid it like the plague around here. Either the car is too low key, or they all know to not embarrass themselves!
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Bill Price
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bretthexum
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Sure wish we could get a definitive answer on 19 all seasons. Right now I have a Dec EDD in MN.... would they REALLY deliver it with summer 19s in the middle of winter?
Venom
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Doutt
Member
I grabbed an "available now" car last week and it is a 436XXX. Do we assume these are cars with less quality or issues or just ones build and set aside waiting for a part to complete? I haven't received it yet.
planetary
EndlessCheese spreader
Latest VINs we're seeing in the sheet are MF441.
@Venom FWIW, when I sold my 2021 LR+ I got quotes from everyone. The CarBuyerUSA offer was significantly better than Carvana. I ended up selling to CarBuyerUSA. The process was pretty painless. Except for saying bye to that car of course.
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EndlessPlaid
⚡EV/Tesla Nerd 🔋
Totally with you. NOT into strapping boosters to cars. It's like NOS: cheating. Really love to see cars as cars. Especially with these revolutionary powertrains!
AnselmDante
Porn Stunt Double
I would respectfully disagree here. Every major technological leap could be viewed as cheating. Power Steering, traction control, turbos, fuel injectors, Engine Control Units, removing the combustion engine....
We are approaching friction limits. Just like traction control helped overcome some of that limit, propulsion that is not restricted by friction coefficients is the next logical leap.
Venom
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That was my impression. I’m hoping that’s not the case though. Maybe someone else can chime in here.
planetary
EndlessCheese spreader
Thinking a step ahead, then: you're saying humanity should live in deep space, as opposed to living on planets which have bothersome surfaces and atmospheres?
I'm in.
EndlessPlaid
⚡EV/Tesla Nerd 🔋
Yeah but this is dangerous. Like people have no idea how brutal this force will be, and even if it can be cutoff, picture this: 0-100 mph will be in the high 2 second range. So some idiot hits the button, and 3 seconds later he's doing exponential speed. Not only that, but what happens if the person hits the brake when these boosters are firing to stop from hitting something? Even if they cutoff immediately after that, it still is wayyy more momentum to stop.
And by cheating, I meant like where it cannot be used frequently. Not only that, but MotorMatchup has a SpaceX Roadster visualizer (https://www.motormatchup.com/simulation?id=67f655965624b0008ba947f), and once the boost is done, the car falls FLAT on its face. The acceleration after is not proportional to the acceleration just prior, so it looks like it's extremely slow. It may do 8.1 second 1/4 mile, but it's a fake 1/4 mile without the trap speed to match. It's not real. This in turns makes the car look like it's trying to be something it is not. Boosters are for rockets, NOT cars please. I personally really like cars that demonstrate their powertrain and technological developments, not relying on some entirely different industry to give them a hand.
Venom
Member
True but I feel like batteries to rocket propulsion is a huge leap and kinda does feel like cheating. What’s next, nuclear fusion engines?
Venom
Member
Awesome, thanks for the heads up. I’ll give them a shot as well.
bananaheim
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Hey @jebinc, I’m still waiting as well so we are not alone.
EndlessPlaid
⚡EV/Tesla Nerd 🔋
EXACTLY! It's really dumb IMO, and is something that MUST be SW locked, or I could see some idiot rocket boosting himself into a minivan full of kids, and the boosters getting themselves banned VERY quickly.
Venom
Member
I put in a service request in the app for my Model Y and got an update that same night.
AnselmDante
Porn Stunt Double
This argument could be applied to a 2 second family sedan. It could also be applied to why that sedan needs to reach 200MPH. You are also blinded by current limitations and technologies. If a thruster can accelerate you, why can't a forward thruster slow you? I mean, aren't the tires responsible for getting you to 200 MPH also responsible for getting you back to zero currently? You're complaining about getting to 100 in 2 seconds, but celebrating getting to 60 in the same time? That 's a rate of acceleration that would allow me to reach highway speeds before the end of my driveway.Yeah but this is dangerous. Like people have no idea how brutal this force will be, and even if it can be cutoff, picture this: 0-100 mph will be in the high 2 second range. So some idiot hits the button, and 3 seconds later he's doing exponential speed. Not only that, but what happens if the person hits the brake when these boosters are firing to stop from hitting something? Even if they cutoff immediately after that, it still is wayyy more momentum to stop.
And by cheating, I meant like where it cannot be used frequently. Not only that, but MotorMatchup has a SpaceX Roadster visualizer (https://www.motormatchup.com/simulation?id=607f655965624b0008ba947f), and once the boost is done, the car falls FLAT on its face. The acceleration after is not proportional to the acceleration just prior, so it looks like it's extremely slow. This in turns makes the car look like it's trying to be something it is not. Boosters are for rockets, NOT cars please. I like cars that have non piggybacked speed
Also, you can't embrace a fully electric vehicle and then say you think some other technological leap would be cheating.
AnselmDante
Porn Stunt Double
This same argument could be applied to the Plaid...
I think you are being silly here.
Venom
Member
True, but if they add the hover functionality then you can just fly over the minivan full of kids
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