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The EQS has a Cd of just 0.20. But it is not in production yet.From @gabeincal
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from MotorTrend the lowest Cd right now is 0.22 -- this is huge!
This says the new Model S will have Cd 0.208
Mercedes A-Class Sedan Claims the Lowest Drag of Any Production Car
A-Class defends the record for the lowest drag of any production vehicle in the world held by the Mercedes-Benz CLAwww.motortrend.com
SegSeg
Member
Well they did not raise price on + until few days before release, so there is still time for them to raise the price on the LR.
Danlbrau
MSLR 1/27/21 VIN MF443 Delivered 9/19/21!
Alienating customers? You know, like delivering cars to people that ordered a week or two ago while giving people who ordered last year the middle finger?
This nonsense is really making me question my Roadster reservation. Give them money years in advance for a slot in line when they’ve shown they’ll screw long time customers who have waited months just to move a car to someone that just made an order.
lowtek
Active Member
I'm not defending the lack of communication and "March deliveries" missed, but Tesla does make cars in batches, they have to re-tool for other trims. It would be insanely expensive to switch to a new trim every single time. You just picked a trim or option that wasn't included in the first batches.
Watched the latest flyover video.
There's a *sugar* ton more model s around the factory now. There are still all of the model s in the holding lot too. So a lot more. There's probably 10 model s on the logistics area, none have silver wheels.
At least one of the delivery model s for tonight has silver wheels though.
There's a *sugar* ton more model s around the factory now. There are still all of the model s in the holding lot too. So a lot more. There's probably 10 model s on the logistics area, none have silver wheels.
At least one of the delivery model s for tonight has silver wheels though.
My delivery appt is at the delivery center, which is a bit of a hike from the test track where the event is. I would imagine those 22 cars are for test drives, which are often a component of these events--get folks hyped and put some money down.
I am also curious what the flow will be for the event as we'll be starting at the delivery center but then need to make it to the test track to make our chauffeured loop of the track and watch the event.
I am also curious what the flow will be for the event as we'll be starting at the delivery center but then need to make it to the test track to make our chauffeured loop of the track and watch the event.
I had a good laugh today when I looked up the 0-60 time for the new $4M Chiron: 2.3s. Plaids will eat it for lunch.
Atomadam
Member
You might be right, when they called me they said a driver would take my car around the track. Honestly i'd like to take a tester around and not mine but it will be what it will be.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
The electric Mercedes EQS is the world's most aerodynamic production car
Its 0.20 drag coefficient beats the Tesla Model S and Lucid Air.www.cnet.com
A lower drag coefficient only means something if the reference areas are comparable.
My guess is the frontal area of the Plaid is smaller than the EQS, and will have lower drag.
Even if that is not the case, would rather have three motors than one...
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What's strange to me...we have to assume the LR backlog is, IDK at least 5-10x larger than the Plaid. Supposedly, you can still get a Plaid this month, assuming you choose the wood interior (so obviously a part shortage issue, not a production issue).
They just canceled the very expensive Plaid+, you'd think to help sway people to go up to the Plaid, they would've raised the price on the LR because the gap between the Plaid and LR was already very large.
Anyway, I'm bored, let's talk about charging speed:
The current Model S (err...the last LR model they sold) had this charging rate:
163 miles for 15 minutes, after the latest update to 225kWh.
Now the refresh can add ~20% more range (at least according to the stats online right now) minimum.
Assuming this charging rate stays the same - is this only due to the car now being able to charge at 250kWh (peak)?
Or, what about this speculation where a 93 kWh battery was discovered in the code:
Or, what about this video where this nice lady got some info a while back saying the pack would be OVER 100kWh:
Pack id 93 doesn't mean it's 93kWh, that's just the id number for a new pack.
The most recent battery used in the Model S/X was 104kWh according to the certificate of conformity filed with the EPA. Before that they were 100kWh.
My speculation on charging speed is that the chemistry and cooling is better now, able to match the Model 3 charge curve for charge rate vs SoC. The bigger battery allows it to add more kWh faster, which is how it now beats model 3 charging speeds.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
At about 1:15 in the Gabe vid, note the car under wrap on the right looks too small to be a MS. Model 2?
One on the left could be a Plaid MX.
One on the left could be a Plaid MX.
AnselmDante
Porn Stunt Double
So, the ludicrous mode two motor MS had a 0-60 of 2.4 seconds. Can anyone point to a verifiable physical reason the MSLR is not capable of the same acceleration?
I'm hoping Tesla will be unlocking a paid software update for the LR next year that drops the 0-60 to 2.4 seconds. Does anyone see why this would not be theoretically possible?
I'm hoping Tesla will be unlocking a paid software update for the LR next year that drops the 0-60 to 2.4 seconds. Does anyone see why this would not be theoretically possible?
BillHenn
🚗 '21 Model S LR MSM/Blk/FSD (RN1144) placed 2/8
Looking at the wheel caps in Gabe's latest video, I still see some silvers out there but it appears a lot of them sitting around the various lots have dark wheel caps. Think those are the newer darker 19" variants seen in images or just the 21" ones?
Eagerly awaiting tonight. Had a 2016 Model S, currently driving a 2020 M3P stealth, which was purchased as a stop gap until this redesign. Almost bought a Taycan, until they made the S announcement...
I hate myself for loving Tesla, and being so excited about tonight. Sometimes they drive me nuts, but its still the best EV company out there.
I'm one of those guys that rarely comments but reads everything you all write - I'm just as crazy as all of you.
Have Blue/White LR on order...pumped to see what the plaid folks are getting!
I hate myself for loving Tesla, and being so excited about tonight. Sometimes they drive me nuts, but its still the best EV company out there.
I'm one of those guys that rarely comments but reads everything you all write - I'm just as crazy as all of you.
Have Blue/White LR on order...pumped to see what the plaid folks are getting!
Refreshed Model X! @4:54 in gabeincal's latest video. Row X18 3rd car in the row - MSM.
[edit] also just noticed the black one in X15 a few seconds before.
[edit] also just noticed the black one in X15 a few seconds before.
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Yeah I would not buy an EQS, no way in hell. It's so ugly, talk about a boring looking family sedan. Not to mention, the screen looks cool, it's not going to be powered by a gaming PC CPU and GPU, not going to be anywhere near as snappy or capable.
BrianBigNFun
Giver of snark
I think youre right about the Plaid X, but that's the reason why the S looks smaller than it is and it's probably not a 2
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