SoCalDude
Life is good!
I am still waiting for my Tesla, but do you think about my new avatar that I found on the web?
Maybe just need the car to be the new Model S.
Maybe just need the car to be the new Model S.
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Should be more like "waiting requires a lot of whiskey"
Frankly I'm still kind of astonished that NHTSA approved the stalkless steering yolk, there are so many impracticalities with it.
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
There is nothing to approve. It does not violate any laws. They can go back and investigate if they want.
Try it before dismissing the practicality and function of it. 15k+ miles on the yoke and no issues.
Agreed. Seems like vast majority of nay-sayers are either waiting for their cars or are blog watchers with doubtful intent to order one.
MFrunkerOG
Active Member
I love the spreadsheet and keep it current at all times! Not sure everyone else does
Ironically, I looked at the white interior spreadsheet today. Pretty certain I was the first person to open it in weeks, if not a good month. The main one is not mine. And is a cluster f of a mess. I think someone started a third one with an accompanying Google Form. So take your pick of the litter.
I don't actually have to drive it to see how impractical a yoke is compared to a round steering wheel, which has been the standard for over a century for a reason. And also the reasons listed by the post I replied to. Didn't know that NHTSA only looked for violations of law when it came to car design.
theatrus
Member
I was in your camp before driving, and then basically flipped all of my opinions.
Its not like the second coming of steering or anything, but it doesn't impact driving nor is it impractical.
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
MFrunkerOG
Active Member
Missile Toad
MSLR Wht/Blk/19 | OD 6/10/21 | RN11512
He’d rather colonize Mars!
Spyderman09
'22 Model S Plaid - Black/Black/CF
Like what, exactly? I don't have as many miles as @Hayseed_MS (only 5000 here) but I have no issues with the yoke, and I drive through roundabouts to get to the office without issue. My experience, much like the person who submitted the complaint, is purely anecdotal and I shouldn't extend that on everyone else broadly.
People will find anything to complain about. It's even worse when people find things to complain about that they haven't even tried.
grossmak
MS LR, Black/black/21", Ordered 3/20/21, RN 1146.
Hey, gang! Haven't been around here since finally taking delivery of my car on 8/30. I've been thoroughly enjoying driving and learning about the car and it is awesome! I mostly use my wall connector to charge at home but was near a super charger yesterday and decided to try it out just for fun. Like the car, it's pretty fast.
So, anyway, finally got my winter wheel setup put on today and thought I'd share my thoughts about that whole process. After not being really happy with any of the offerings from any of the other vendors, I decided to have Signature Wheels custom make a set of wheels for the car. It seems like everyone is trying to get you to buy a square wheel setup for a car that was designed to perform at its best with staggered wheels. I went with 19" SV104's for the Indiana winters and spring pot-holes that come with them...in the same staggered sizes as Tesla offers with their 19" wheels. Unfortunately, there are no winter tires to be had that fit this wheel configuration. I think that some manufacturers do make actual winter tires that would work but, with the supply chain the way it is, I couldn't find any so I went with Continental ProContact RX tires, again the same all seasons that Tesla uses. The supply of them seems to also be dwindling but I was able to get a full set from Belle Tire...2 from Connecticut and 2 from Nebraska. I picked up TPMS sensors from the SC in Indianapolis. Finally, and at the last minute, I wanted lug nuts that would look right with the new wheels/tires and landed on black titanium lug nuts from Unplugged Performance. Got everything put on today and am a happy camper.
All of the vendors in this process have been great to work with and very accomodating. Signature Wheels is on their game with quality and Unplugged went out of their way to overnight me lug nuts after I procrastinated about that part of the configuration. I am using Belle's valet service to have my summer wheels/tires cleaned and stored in their climate controlled facility until spring when I'll reverse the process. It's $109.00 twice a year.
Hope everyone is well...I'll try to check in more often.
So, anyway, finally got my winter wheel setup put on today and thought I'd share my thoughts about that whole process. After not being really happy with any of the offerings from any of the other vendors, I decided to have Signature Wheels custom make a set of wheels for the car. It seems like everyone is trying to get you to buy a square wheel setup for a car that was designed to perform at its best with staggered wheels. I went with 19" SV104's for the Indiana winters and spring pot-holes that come with them...in the same staggered sizes as Tesla offers with their 19" wheels. Unfortunately, there are no winter tires to be had that fit this wheel configuration. I think that some manufacturers do make actual winter tires that would work but, with the supply chain the way it is, I couldn't find any so I went with Continental ProContact RX tires, again the same all seasons that Tesla uses. The supply of them seems to also be dwindling but I was able to get a full set from Belle Tire...2 from Connecticut and 2 from Nebraska. I picked up TPMS sensors from the SC in Indianapolis. Finally, and at the last minute, I wanted lug nuts that would look right with the new wheels/tires and landed on black titanium lug nuts from Unplugged Performance. Got everything put on today and am a happy camper.
All of the vendors in this process have been great to work with and very accomodating. Signature Wheels is on their game with quality and Unplugged went out of their way to overnight me lug nuts after I procrastinated about that part of the configuration. I am using Belle's valet service to have my summer wheels/tires cleaned and stored in their climate controlled facility until spring when I'll reverse the process. It's $109.00 twice a year.
Hope everyone is well...I'll try to check in more often.
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I have to be honest, I don't see the point of this post. Elon declared the yoke is here to stay. If there's one thing you can say about the guy, it's that he's wildly stubborn and pigheaded. So it's a simple decision now. Don't buy the car, or buy it and deal with the yoke. The odds that any federal body comes down with a ruling in the next 12 months that changes it seems pretty slim...
And to be clear, I hate the dumb yoke and wish it was a wheel with stalks but I've made my peace with it as the price to pay for a car I otherwise 100% want.
The point is:
- Having a yoke isn't new, production cars have had them in the past.
- Having turn signals on the steering wheel isn't new, cars have had them on the steering wheel in the past.
- Having the horn not be the center of the steering wheel isn't new, cars have had them elsewhere in the past.
Really, the only difference is that Tesla is delivering these changes in a mainstream vehicle in a much larger quantity than other cars in the past.
If someone doesn't think they can drive safely with the yoke, and its associated controls, they should buy something other than a new Model S or Model X.
grossmak
MS LR, Black/black/21", Ordered 3/20/21, RN 1146.
I've had zero issues with the yoke. Moreso with the craziness of the car starting to move itself as soon as I take my foot off of the brake with the wife's Lexus.
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