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There's are lots of cars at 10x the price that are dedicated hyper cars that still aren't as fast as the Plaid but it doesn't take away from their appeal or sales just because they can't keep up with the MSP in a straight line.
WilliamG
Hinge Fanatic
For most, USB is not important. That’s not to say it’s not a valid complaint. Tesla’s infotainment is leagues ahead of absolutely any car manufacturer. It’s not perfect, but it’s not even close when it comes to best in class.
I get it. I have my 500+ albums on a stick and half them aren't streamable and the half that are don't sound as good unless you have Tidal or Apple Music.
If they'd just fix it so that search results once again include results from your local USB storage, that would mostly solve it for me. They made a big deal when they introduced that feature back in 2015.
Propofoln
Member
My Taycan rides waaaaay better than my Plaid. Like another galaxy better. Not just the handling. A lot quieter too. I do miss the way Spotify is arranged on the Tesla UI. CarPlay just isn’t as good.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
Yeah, I drove a 2024 Taycan Turbo S. I tried to be as neutral and objective as possible. I couldn't feel any difference in handling compared to the Plaid. I know people rave about the differences, but there's a lot of bias there. You are expecting a better experience since you paid more, so of course it must be better.
I think the objective results are the only real metric. You can say things subjective things about "feel" and "driving experience" but the Plaid with the track pack ran a 7:25 and the Turbo S ran a 7:42. Though, I'll give them the new one is going to be damn fast at 7:07.
Also, when you are stuck in traffic, none of that "driving experience" stuff matters. The self-driving features matter. And at least in my short test drive, Porsche inno drive seemed to be pretty bad compared to FSD. Just comparing highway driving.
Ultimately, the charging network also killed my interest in the Taycan. I don't want to struggle with charging and be limited to 50 or 150 kw on 400V chargers.
Now, if the Taycan GT comes with NACS....
Propofoln
Member
Yeah, I drove a 2024 Taycan Turbo S. I tried to be as neutral and objective as possible. I couldn't feel any difference in handling compared to the Plaid. I know people rave about the differences, but there's a lot of bias there. You are expecting a better experience since you paid more, so of course it must be better.
I think the objective results are the only real metric. You can say things subjective things about "feel" and "driving experience" but the Plaid with the track pack ran a 7:25 and the Turbo S ran a 7:42. Though, I'll give them the new one is going to be damn fast at 7:07.
Also, when you are stuck in traffic, none of that "driving experience" stuff matters. The self-driving features matter. And at least in my short test drive, Porsche inno drive seemed to be pretty bad compared to FSD. Just comparing highway driving.
Ultimately, the charging network also killed my interest in the Taycan. I don't want to struggle with charging and be limited to 50 or 150 kw on 400V chargers.
Now, if the Taycan GT comes with NACS....
After owning both, I think the real difference is the suspension. Porsches is way better. The ride is very smooth and comfortable, yet sporty. Driving both back to back same day (both have 21s), the Tesla is just schizophrenic feeling. Like it doesn’t know how to settle on the road. Think that’s what people don’t like regarding the ride of 21s. The Taycan suspension embarrasses the Tesla in ride quality. Now I agree they both corner well for their size. They are big heavy EVs, and you can tell. Yeah. Porsche innodrive sucks compared to the Tesla autopilot. Def use it less in the Taycan. Haven’t used any non home charger as I just drive it locally.
21s really compromise the handling on the S. I had both the 19s and 21s on my P85D+ and sold the 21s after about 3K miles. The had so many downsides that I wish I'd known before:
- Less comfortable
- Worse handling
- Faster tire wear (due to excessive factory negative camber)
- Easier to damage from curbing, potholes, etc.
- Tires more expensive
- Range is worse
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
I just have to say that a Plaid with track pack is in a completely different universe than a 2015 P85D....
You did the smart thing, you bought it after it depreciated massively. New Turbo S is not twice the car MSP is but it is more than twice the price. Range is *sugar* and Porsche does not know how to do software. I had 4S and yes, its nice to drive, but weeks at the dealer for software upgrades ain't fun.
I've gotten that message today twice already and I just ordered last night.
Hayseed_MS
Spreader of "Endless Non Sequitur"
Don’t believe there is a single state lemon law that has a restriction on the number of times it can be used.
Suggest from personal experience that once you’ve met the criteria, the criteria have been met.
That said,in our cases it was two BMWs over a two year period that were absolute garbage, one of which was LATER part of the infamous Bremi ignition coil fiasco in the early 2000’s: they would intermittently fail when hot, and then when cool (after being towed in, for example), there would be no problem found.
Oddly, BMW took the approach that it must be the customer that’s the problem, because they’re arrogant as all get out.
I should have written the BMW FL region manager jerk a nasty note after they recalled a few hundred thousand cars for those damn ignition coils, but just never made the time.
aerodyne
2 of 3 EV's - Defect Free!
Just the thought of having to deal with a Porsche dealer makes me queasy.
popgodazipa
Member
Retooling the line I hope for some changes.
Propofoln
Member
Ugh, have you dealt with Tesla service??
I have had 5 Porsches and the dealers are amazing. Tesla, can’t even call your local dealer. Have to talk to a regional person.
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