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Early Access Program (overflow from 2018.39 4a3910f thread)
Bruce.
Early Access Program (overflow from 2018.39 4a3910f thread)
Bruce.
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I think, actually, you can probably trace all the examples of this back to me. I've just used this example on these forums several times (though lying in the middle of the road is a new twist on it). So it's not all Americans, it's just me.
plankeye
That Vegan EV Guy
You’ll be getting that fancy new chipset Tesla built in house, so a donation but at least with some compensation. I’m guessing the rest of us EAP plebes will need to pay the FSD upgrade fee to get the shiny new hardware.
Silicon Desert
Well-Known Member
Whether it has occurred or not, I think the answer you are looking for is that YES it can occur. Doesn't need to be WiFI.
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Sensors (overflow from 2018.39 thread)
And now I have to get back to work.
Bruce.
Sensors (overflow from 2018.39 thread)
And now I have to get back to work.
Bruce.
if someone is lying in the middle of the road around here they are getting run over.. lidar be damned
That's funny and all, but actually people can very easily see pedestrians lying in the middle of the road and they will not run over them. It is also not an unthinkable situation at all, in fact it happens in real life not infrequently. (It's infrequent with in any given single driver's experience, but not infrequent if you take all driving situations encountered daily across a large population -- which is what Autopilot needs to deal with.) I saw some news articles just last week about a toddler crawling across a busy road (image and link below). People can handle these situations. This is the bar Tesla needs to leap over to enter L3 territory.
Driver Helps Rescue Baby Crawling Across New Jersey Road
Sorry bmah if this should be in the sensor thread... this is less about sensors and more about the challenges facing EAP/FSD progress in general, IMO.
That's funny and all, but actually people can very easily see pedestrians lying in the middle of the road and they will not run over them. It is also not an unthinkable situation at all, in fact it happens in real life not infrequently. (It's infrequent with in any given single driver's experience, but not infrequent if you take all driving situations encountered daily across a large population -- which is what Autopilot needs to deal with.) I saw some news articles just last week about a toddler crawling across a busy road (image and link below). People can handle these situations. This is the bar Tesla needs to leap over to enter L3 territory.
Driver Helps Rescue Baby Crawling Across New Jersey Road
Sorry bmah if this should be in the sensor thread... this is less about sensors and more about the challenges facing EAP/FSD progress in general, IMO.
Well, given the crazy beeping and sudden stop I got a couple months back for an empty paper cup that rolled in front of my car, a baby might be doable. That said, babies crossing a freeway are pretty rare, so EAP should be fine regardless.
TT97
Active Member
how could anyone know this, unless they are part of the engineering team @ tesla
I wouldn't read too much into the reported data on which cars get or don't get v9. My nephew got his pre-AP classic MS upgraded to v9 yesterday at the Service Center.
It would be interesting if EAP could still manage pedestrian detection at 70mph.
One of the freeways I used to commute on when I lived in Fort Worth it was fairly common for homeless folks to cross the freeway on foot. Several would get hit every year (including one infamous case involving a person who just left the homeless dude stuck in her windshield and drove home).
If the NN is doing single frame processing (most likely), 70 MPH should not matter (other than a slight amount of image smearing).
Silicon Desert
Well-Known Member
Fact is that ALL models can be awakened by the system for a variety of reasons, including to push an update, even if is in sleep mode. The folks that like to have their cars plugged in or setting the configuration screen to "Always Connected" isn't going to ensure that you get an update any earlier. Unnecessary to do that.
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Tesla pushes a job ' firmware update' to your car, the job says that it needs to wait for wifi to start the download process, the job usually says for how long it needs to wait for the wifi to start the download, after that date, the firmware can download over LTE. Once the download is initiated your car will be kept awake until a firmware is downloaded, verified and staged.
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