SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
The Tesla Semi is fascinating. There is a lot to digest but I think the most basic question left unanswered here is whether the one million mile warranty includes the battery.
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SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Please check my arithmetic:
If 80 cents a mile for truck TCO,
Then 80k cents to drive 1000 miles
If 80k pounds of goods,
Then one penny per pound moved 1000 miles
If 80 cents a mile for truck TCO,
Then 80k cents to drive 1000 miles
If 80k pounds of goods,
Then one penny per pound moved 1000 miles
80 k pounds is gross weight, need to subtract the weight of the tractor/trailer/ driver and latte.
Sean Wagner
Member
Time to take a couple of deep breaths. Beyond all the technical details and hoopla, this kind of progress on the battery side, coupled with the vehemently plunging costs of renewable energy generation, is truly mind boggling. Never would have thought I'd live to see this at the turn of the millenium.
I just want to stop by here real quick and thank you. My livestream of the event was out for enough time to have me searching frantically to find a different way to watch it when I came across your post. It worked and I watched that thread until I got the official one to work again. Missed a little bit, but I’ll just rewatch it (again and again). Much appreciated for the link. Thank you.
Ciaopec
Active Member
Sorry, not interested at all in any of this new stuff.
Not until Tesla fixes its HUGE problems with existing stuff. Service, service, service.
Not until Tesla fixes its HUGE problems with existing stuff. Service, service, service.
Under the driver, the high seating position/ floor hides the height of the pack which probably extends axle to axle. Possibly vertically stacked sub packs.
Super_Popular
Well-Known Member
I was so over stimulated last night from seeing the Justice League and that awesome semi then the Roadster!.....I was in overload!...
However, Tesla has taken the Model S and X pretty much as far as it can go with options....now to wow us they need to do better on range. And I think they are on that track....I hope. I would love 500 range! or even 400.
However, Tesla has taken the Model S and X pretty much as far as it can go with options....now to wow us they need to do better on range. And I think they are on that track....I hope. I would love 500 range! or even 400.
I thought the event was fairly weak. The semi is a year behind an ideal schedule. Showing the roadster now was a questionable decision probably made to ensure this event had enough impact.
Tesla must execute on the model 3. The next critically important vehicle is the model Y.
Tesla has 30,000 employees and a lot of talent. Of course they can design and build prototypes of any sort of electric vehicle imaginable. Why not show a speed boat and motorcycle too. Turn Franz loose.
I do give Musk credit for not overselling the truck. Tesla shoud be able to achieve what he is selling.
Tesla must execute on the model 3. The next critically important vehicle is the model Y.
Tesla has 30,000 employees and a lot of talent. Of course they can design and build prototypes of any sort of electric vehicle imaginable. Why not show a speed boat and motorcycle too. Turn Franz loose.
I do give Musk credit for not overselling the truck. Tesla shoud be able to achieve what he is selling.
Follow up: from the Tesla Twitter, there are 4 battery packs (full width, fore, aft and stacked two high) under the floor.
T34ME
Active Member
I'm thinking they will be filled before this Christmas. There's a boatload of Middle Eastern <20 y.o. princes who will get a present from daddy. And then if the Federal tax plan goes through, there will be a lot more people who have excess disposable income who will have even more excess disposable income - it's called "trickle up" economics. I would plunk down the $250K cash deposit but only if Tesla offers lease options and we retain the $7,500 tax credit until I take delivery!
T34ME
Active Member
Can't help but notice the model 3 DNA (rather than MS) in the Roadster - similar flares over front and rear wheels, ascending accent design on side panel, front fascia, similar roof swoop. I see a redesign of the MS in the near future that will follow this design language.
Nurse, nurse, another Depends please, I just soiled myself.
T34ME
Active Member
When I saw the specs on the Semi, my mind was blown. When I saw the specs on the Roadster, my mind exploded!
avesraggiana
Member
I'm thinking they will be filled before this Christmas. There's a boatload of Middle Eastern <20 y.o. princes who will get a present from daddy. And then if the Federal tax plan goes through, there will be a lot more people who have excess disposable income who will have even more excess disposable income - it's called "trickle up" economics. I would plunk down the $250K cash deposit but only if Tesla offers lease options and we retain the $7,500 tax credit until I take delivery!
Didn’t a whole bunch of those middle eastern princes, from Saudi Arabia specifically, just get arrested and thrown in jail for “corruption?"
T34ME
Active Member
For the time being, yes, until they start kicking back more cash to the Crown Prince. And there are a lot more princes in the Middle East than just Saudi Arabia.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
You should say all around sonar aka ultrasonic sensors, and yes it has 360 coverage with sonar from the 3rd axle forward, including rear facing that will help for getting distance to the trailer when you go to hook up. (I'm assuming people will buy the semi and use old trailers without sensors). Maybe Tesla sells new trailers with ultrasonic sensors as well.
But no matter what the trailer has the tractor has ultrasonic sensors.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
The Tesla website says < 2 kWh per mile. I'll call it two.
The 500 mile range then requires 1000 kWh of battery
400 miles of charge in 30 minutes then implies an AVERAGE 1600 kW charge rate.
My LEAF is starting to feel a little Golf-carty, and the numbers are getting so big it reminds me of the heydays in computers where we had to get used to new units of measurement to not get bogged down in speech.
"How fast does YOUR truck charge ?"
"Sad to say, under 2 MW. It is a 1st Gen."
The 500 mile range then requires 1000 kWh of battery
400 miles of charge in 30 minutes then implies an AVERAGE 1600 kW charge rate.
My LEAF is starting to feel a little Golf-carty, and the numbers are getting so big it reminds me of the heydays in computers where we had to get used to new units of measurement to not get bogged down in speech.
"How fast does YOUR truck charge ?"
"Sad to say, under 2 MW. It is a 1st Gen."
Considering the da Vinci that just sold for 450mil, you are probably right.
I do think Tesla playing the roadster II card now is a negative short to medium term indicator. It's early.
The design is terrific. Franz does it again.
I wonder if its model 3 based, or next gen model S based. I was sure it would be model 3 base, but I expected a $100K car.
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