[uk] UltraSonic Sensors removal/TV replacement performance

[rowedav]

I’ve just spoken to a Tesla rep who confirmed my 580 build car comes with Tesla vision and not USS.

Bugger.

Did you have anything to 'accept' in the Tesla app regarding USS or lack thereof? Some have, some haven't...

 

[candida]

That's bullsh*t, and proof they don't really know what they're talking about. They've mixed up Tesla Vision disabling radar for Autopilot on 2022.24 with USS. There's no update disabling USS 'at this time', to quote Tesla's marketing crap.

If they do disable them without any replacement (and I wouldn’t put it past them), mine’s gone.

 

[Danny_F]

I’ve been told I have RCCB cameras with Tesla vision, does anyone know if these are the upgraded ones?

 

[Morpheus84]

2023 Model 3 and Model Y do not have USS

You are wrong. My car has USS and is a 2023 version. See signature for details. This was confirmed twice by Tesla chat, also no USS disclaimer in my Tesla account

 

[Morpheus84]

I’ve been told I have RCCB cameras with Tesla vision, does anyone know if these are the upgraded ones?

A quick google would suggest these are not new cameras Danny. I see threads discussing them from feb 2022: RCCB Cams? Yes or No?

 

[Danny_F]

So looks like I’ve double bummed out, no USS and no new cameras

 

[Danny_F]

Did you have anything to 'accept' in the Tesla app regarding USS or lack thereof? Some have, some haven't...

Nope, nothing in the app stating no USS.

 

[Bal83]

So looks like I’ve double bummed out, no USS and no new cameras

You may still get ‘new’ cameras - it’s just they still use the same sort of filter

It will be interesting when news breaks of the upcoming deliveries with what cameras people have etc.

 

[Morpheus84]

You may still get ‘new’ cameras - it’s just they still use the same sort of filter

It will be interesting when news breaks of the upcoming deliveries with what cameras people have etc.

Agreed. Deliveries are starting this week so only time will tell.

 

[Danzr]

You are wrong. My car has USS and is a 2023 version. See signature for details. This was confirmed twice by Tesla chat, also no USS disclaimer in my Tesla account

Ok then 2023 Model 3 and Model Y do have USS

Was I more wrong before? Fair to say you have a 2023 vin but not a 2023 refreshed model in that case?

 

[Durzel]

No one knows the significance of the new cameras. They could just be a new design, a different lens, etc.

People have just heard that 5MP cameras are due from Samsung at some point and have thought “might as well just assume that’s these ones”

 

[Zilla91]

If you go to the main FSD forum someone posted a video of the output from the new cameras in the States

 

[Durzel]

If you go to the main FSD forum someone posted a video of the output from the new cameras in the States

Do you have a link handy? Struggling to find it. What was the consensus? That the resolution is improved?

 

[Zilla91]

I think it looked the same. I’ll try to find and post it

Edit: found it! Buyers Remorse because of cameras

 

[bainsy]

My car (562XXX vin) does not come with USS

Just hoping for upgraded camera’s at least

 

[Sonny-Jim]

Datapoint - taking delivery of my M3LR around 14th Dec (ordered in April + matched to a VIN 8 days ago), the Tesla rep checked the vehicle spec and confirmed no USS are fitted.

Are you sure your car us nit coming with USS?
I ordered my car after you in May, with EDD Jan 2023, and when i checked i was told that mine build did have sensors.
I would have cancelled my order if it didn't have sensors, as the Mrs would have crashed it parking .

I really hope it has sensors or i wont be accepting my delivery.

 

[Danny_F]

My 580 build car is not coming with USS, so i have been told anyway.

 

[Chimpy McChimp]

If they do disable them without any replacement (and I wouldn’t put it past them), mine’s gone.

You may be *sugar out of luck as when I asked on live chat they said my car has no USS but the feature will be added via software update "when performance parity is achieved". The key word being "when" which I asked about and they didn't know.

 

[Battpower]

My car (562XXX vin) does not come with USS

Just hoping for upgraded camera’s at least

This comment strikes me as quite sensible:

Also, it's pretty difficult to find a cheap high-volume 720p image sensor anymore. Perhaps this new 5MP camera isn't even an upgrade, it's just what's available today

So much of what Tesla does could equally be proactive or reactive. You'd think changes would be designed in months in advance, but realities of the market could well dictate otherwise, and we know how focused they are on meeting target. Unless there is a whole new set of hardware dealing with higher data rates and new NN's processing the higher res images, I find it hard to imagine they can just switch to 5mp images without a pretty big impact on the whole vision system.

In fact, thinking about it, I'm not even sure how a NN trained on a lower res feed could be relied on to work as expected if you switch to higher res.

 

[pgkevet]

I would guess it's pretty easy to read lower Res off a higher Res sensor and worry about using it's full potential later.