all technology has this “early adopter tax” to it. Y’all probably know phones used to cost tens of thousands of dollars back then but as more people started using it, that changed-quite quickly. I’m willing to bet my life savings on the fact that this is going to happen to FSD too. It’s going to be a standard moving forward, not a luxury
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Did your insurance know your car had FSD, because if not then for sure they wouldn't have covered it. But I completely understand what you are saying. Even when selling or trading in the car FSD's value is reduced which is ridiculous because it's software that is constantly improving. So how can it have a depreciated value? I think maybe this is why having the car covered by Tesla insurance is actually a better thing perhaps.
And yeah I'd never rent out my expensive Tesla to strangers for the robotaxi thing. The cabin camera can't see rear occupants as they cut up the seats. Imagine the car picking up a load of gangbangers, you know they would damage the car. But then again I don't think a Tesla robotaxi fleet will happen in my lifetime anyway, there are too many obstacle for Tesla to overcome.
And those people that rent their car out have more money than they know what to do with, so they don't care about the damage renters do to their car.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Aren’t those insured by Turo ? AirBNB - has a million $ insurance against damage, for eg.
Just because something is insured it doesn't mean the car will ever be the same again. And a vehicle with an accident on its record has a lower resale value. Plus, there are deductibles you have to pay with insurance.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Sure - you could say the same thing with AirBNB, though.
Ofcourse I’d never give my car for rent, nor host strangers in my house.
But if it calculates to be a decent business proposition - will buy cars/houses specifically to rent.
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andy.connor.e
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I am planning on buying a model 3 and debating whether to get FSD vs nothing. According to what I have found on the forums even after I pay the 15k I have to have a certain drivers score to use FSD beta right? I just want to make sure I am understanding this correctly. And if you do not get that driving score then you cannot use it correct? if that is the case I feel like it is really wrong to make someone pay 15k and they do not even get the feature based on their driving habits.
IMO, if you're considering giving Elon $15k for FSD, then you haven't done enough research.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
This is what you get right now (no safe driving required!). It’s $6k for one set of features, and $9k additional for the other set. The Autosteer on City Streets is what requires the Safety Score now but in the next few weeks it looks like that should become very lax (unclear when it the actual full expansion of FSD Beta to SS80+ will occur).
Note there is no promise of any self-driving feature in any of the above (including Autosteer on City Streets, off the screen). L2.
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EVRider-FL
Active Member
EAP is your best option for now if you want more than basic AP. Buying FSD adds very little value above EAP at this point, unless you’re eager to get FSD Beta. When FSD offers enough additional value to make it worthwhile, you can do a monthly FSD subscription (currently $100/month if you have EAP).
Thank you this is helpful. I have done some research, but just found the FSD beta thing kind of confusing with people talking about scores on this forum.
Tam
Well-Known Member
Right on!
Correct again.
Yes. You got the right idea.
But it's a free country. Tesla does not force anyone to pay $15,000. It's voluntary.
Autosteer on City Streets is not available today to the general public. It is shown as “Coming soon” on the web site. There is a beta test program available that you can apply to participate in if you want to. But it is definitely not ready for prime time. It makes lots of mistakes and many folks consider it quite dangerous. Tesla makes no apologies for its failings, you must agree to accept its often poor decisions and take full responsibility for safe operation of your vehicle. You also must apply to the program and have your driving monitored by Tesla for a period of time to get in. If you are up for that, go for it. It is far from complete and screws up a lot.
I signed up for it. It took three months of monitored driving for me to get in, even though I had it on the car I traded in. I had a safety score of 100 through most of the monitored period, dropping to 99 in the last week. I tend to look at the good things it is capable of, and report it when it screws up.
You can get most of the features including FSD on highways, which is actually quite good. Just purchase Enhanced Auto Pilot for $6,000. You can buy city streets later if/when it comes to pass.
I can't believe anyone was willing to pay $15,000 for FSD. SMH
I paid $10,000 on my 2022. After paying $9,000 on my 2018 (5k + 4k). $15,000 would have given me pause. The return of EAP, literally happened just days after my delivery.
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