There is a road near my house with the dashed line space separating the bike lane from the driving lane. FSD always thinks it’s a lane to drive in and tries to merge into it
Probobly different in different states and part of the problem. In Georgia the bike lines are separated by a solid white line. If there is a right turn the line may become a dashed line meaning a car can share/move into the lane to turn. If it stays sold then the car can't use the bike line. Unsafe idea (cars should NEVER be allowed to merge into bikes) but cars always seem more important than VRUs.
I prefer a wider arc at the very beginning instead of going into the T Bone lane which it often does.Another 12.2 success this morning. FSD was starting to turn left (no stop required). A bus was on the side street with a stop sign in the right turn lane. In the middle of the turn, a car pulled up to the stop sign (actually pulled beyond the stop line,) suddenly appearing from behind the bus. FSD quickly adjusted it’s turn path to turn wider and avoid the car. It stuttered a bit and wasn’t as smooth as a human driver would have done it but it didn’t stop or freak out at all. Not perfect, but still well done and very acceptable.
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Well, we don’t know for sure that they’re not doing that, or at least Trying to, but more than that, it’s quite possible and even likely that doing that would not meet the testing requirements. If I were adding beta testers I would want a testing cohort that covered as much of the country as possible and as many driving conditions (city, suburbs, country, etc) as possible. If they have 5000 people trying to get in to FSD beta in Palo Alto but no one participating in Fargo I would expect the person who signs up in Fargo to get in sooner, just because they need the data.
If you have a clear view of the lanes and know there’s no one coming then a closer arc is fine but if there’s an obstructed view like there was here then swinging wider is the safer, more defensive option. In FSD’s defense, though, the car that pulled out pulled out well beyond the stop sign and did so directly and fairly quickly. The proper course would have been to stop or at least slow significantly, waiting for the bus to proceed so he would have a clear view since he had a stop sign and was required to yield.
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No, the car wasn’t stationary, it pulled out from behind the bus while FSD was in the middle of the turn. Oops - sorry, that was in the post but wouldn’t let you make another trollish comment.Im looking at the pic..
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LOL at some being impressed (in 2022...5 years after the car was supposed to go from NYC to LA all by itself) by it doing what it should be doing..in the first place. "look! It took the proper arc when it made a left turn. And it avoided hitting a stationary car in the process! This is amazing!"
I completely agree with everything you said. 1st priority is the testing needs of the team. Just when all things are equal show some love to the longest waiting customers.
I’m glad you realized your mistake. Gives me hope That you can continue to progress.
I just drove the same route again, this time there were no cars at all. The arc that the car took was what I would consider a completely appropriate path. I can’t be positive, but as I looked at it passing through the second time I think the bus was actually sitting with its nose already beyond the curb of the street it was turning on to meaning the other car that came out causing my MY to swerve a bit actually came well into the intersection.
Now, if it could violate the law of gravity, that'd be interesting...If this was the only "law" FSD violated ....
