I didn't know Tesla drivers went to Autozone....
they have great deals on wiper fluid.
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I didn't know Tesla drivers went to Autozone....
Awesome. Take a video! My 20-minute 16-mile drive home is also pretty good. If I take the correct route I can usually make it with just two or three interventions (and quite a lot of accelerator work, requests to change lanes, and numerous speed adjustments). But I don’t find that it is making my drive easier or smoother (except for the freeway part where I think it is quite good, except for rubber banding).FSDb is pretty useless.
From the signage, I'd conclude that there is no straight light because all lanes turn left or right. Probably no distinction between left and right at this intersection since the center lane is permitted to go left or right. Probably also why the lights I see are not arrows.
they have great deals on wiper fluid.
I was literally at Autozone just 3 days ago to buy wiper fluid lol. It was $10 cheaper than ordering on Amazon.they have great deals on wiper fluid.
Tesla obviously needs to work on these cases. How to fix it is Tesla's problem.
That's all very nice, but an AV must take the world as it is.The right way to fix it is to make the lights not be ambiguous in the first place. Put a sign below it that says SR17 NB or LEFT TO LINCOLN or some identifier that is uniquely identifiable as to what direction on what street that light is for. But good luck getting that to happen.
Ah yes, but lawyers.That's all very nice, but an AV must take the world as it is.
You really think that a jury would be more sympathetic to a robot than a human?Ah yes, but lawyers.
Maybe when municipalities get hit with slam-dunk liability lawsuits (AV camera video showing the traffic controls out of spec and obviously ambiguous or just plain misleading, leading to an AV-involved collision, where the AV manufacturer is sued and then sues the municipality in turn) they’ll take their responsibilities more seriously and do a better job of shading signals pointing towards other lanes.
Human drivers like me are too afraid to move forward when things don’t look right. AVs can only deal with what they’re presented.
A robot jury might. You know, a jury "of your peers".......You really think that a jury would be more sympathetic to a robot than a human?
Never going to happen.
I actually spend more time than ever at Napa. I volunteer at a RR so I'm going there non stop getting special filters on a weekly basis. They see me pull up in the Tesla and have my commercial account open by the time I walk in the door. I do get wiper blades and fluid there also.I didn't know Tesla drivers went to Autozone....
I read several of these posts and most boil down mistakes made by the local DOT's. there are federal laws stating how traffic signals are to be installed. It has been a long time since I've been in the business. Lights were supposed to be centered in each travel lane. Field conditions would quickly throw the code out the window, especially with the mast arm signals. One undocumented water main would shift the foundations off 3-4' and engineered signal mounts are now off the 3-4'. The lack of enforcement by inspectors doesn't help either. each pole is specifically engineered, long in advance of construction. City streets could never comply with this regulation, and play by a different set of rules.I came across this monstrosity the other day:
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Five lanes. Left turn lane with an arrow shaped light, three forward lanes signaled by regular lights, and a single right-turn lane with two regular (non-arrow) lights. I guess the city ran out of right-arrow lights and just decided to go with two regular lights and a "Right turn signal" sign.
I was in the fourth lane from the left, and my green-light chime sounded when the right-turn signals turned green (while my lane's signal stayed red). And then it chimed again when my proper light turned green.
All of a sudden, I feel bad for the AI team that has to work on this.Ohio has this (not-so) brilliant design on a 55 mph highway. The left lane slightly splits off from the right two and a curb separates them, then you come around a corner to see 4 lights hanging over 3 lanes, none of which line up with the lanes. The right two lights are always green.
When they first deployed these, I saw a rear-ending accident here almost every day in the evening commute for months before most locals got used to it. Lots of people think if they are in the middle lane and the second light from the left is red, they should stop (aggressively from 55+ mph), while others think if they are in the middle lane and the second light from the right is green they should go.
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Also, in light of this video in NY, I've realized that counting disengagements is a relatively useless metric of progress for FSD Beta. It's way too circumstantial and way too dependent on a test driver's chosen routes.
If this guy chooses a route with an obstacle that FSD Beta categorically cannot handle, he'll have a disengagement every day. And likewise if someone just happens to have a test route that doesn't pass any edge-cases, they might never have a disengagement.
The better metric is the percentage of routes (or road miles) that can be driven disengagement free. At what point can 50% of the roads in your area be driven disengagement free, 80%, 90%, 99%, etc. And then jointly, what percent of roads in the US can be driven disregard free for any given firmware version. It moves the local variability out of the error term for the metric and turns it into the metric itself.
Very true. To go to this larger USPS with parking ( as I just walk to my nearest one where parking is very difficult) about 4 miles from my place Tesla nav will always route me thro the highway which takes the same amount of time if I take local roads and at least no truck overturn or truck with hazmats on the local roads. As for the number of disengagements they both may be comparable. Near my neighborhood streets, to make this left turn on to the neighborhood street which is offset from the street on the right where there is a signal light my car fails constantly on FSDb and just cannot make the turn as it is very chaotic: cars turning from the street on the left ( street offset) who may also turn right immediately to the street I am planning to turn left, cars parked at the corner where I have to turn, pedestrians crossing that street, dog walkers, food delivery drivers keeping their doors open, cars from that neighborhood street making turns etc etc. Oh.. add to those chaos our turn restrictions during rush hour and we cannot make any of those turns from the major artery. With so much chaos I always take an earlier left turn to the neighborhood during non-rush hour which is also bad but manageable. Tesla will never choose that route even tho that's the pattern I am following.If you watch that video from NY, he specifically says he's disengaging in order to place the car in a position where it will need to attempt a left-turn that it has previously failed to do. So many of the FSD Beta test drivers seem to have their favorite routes and road features to test.