FSD Beta v11.x

sleepydoc · Oct 9, 2023

heapmaster said:
I would love slow to accelerate at lights, mine likes to go 0 - Speed Limit in as fast as it can, even on chill mode for FSD and controls. It even does this when theres a red light ahead and then it has to hit the breaks with low regen to stop again.

ok - maybe I spoke too soon. Just took another drive and had a nice rocket launch from the stop light.

sleepydoc · Oct 9, 2023

Therealm80 said:
To reply to text messages use the right scroll button

you can also tap on the message area (but not the blue microphone to the left.) Why did they bother to change that?

PACEMD · Oct 9, 2023

mirkop82 said:
Gotcha! Then I guess that it doesn't matter if the car is from 2018, but rather that I purchased it a few weeks ago, even if it was a private sale, and they know because of the account transfer. Correct?

I'm in the same Tesla boat. Changed to this line, 2023.32.7 FSDb 11.4.4, when I transferred FSDb to the new M3P. Actually, it's probably better. Newest other updates and 11.4.4 certainly seems more reliable/consistent than 11.4.7xxxxx.

PACEMD · Oct 9, 2023

WilliamG said:
11.4.4 is the latest version for the mass FSD crowd. 11.4.7.2 is the latest version for a small minority of early FSD buyers.

Right, but it is FSD beta.........

PACEMD · Oct 9, 2023

sleepydoc said:
11.4.4 is becoming the version for the un-cool kids.

Exactly! Which is why I have it.........

sleepydoc · Oct 9, 2023

PACEMD said:
Exactly! Which is why I have it.........

Argh! I hope no one saw me talking to you!

fasteddie7 · Oct 9, 2023

After driving 11.4.7.2 around for a week on hardware 4 it’s pretty safe for me to say that there really hasn’t been much of an update to the actual self driving part. It seems the update is mostly for those quality of life updates like controlling the scroll wheel function and being able to move the window for the Blindspot to various places on the screen. It is neat to be able to see what the pillar cameras can see and it definitely sees more than I thought it could and that’s if the image isn’t cropped from what I can see on the display. I wish I could view it while driving although there’s not a whole Lotta traffic in my area so I was able to get a couple quick looks at some of the blind intersections that I have to come in contact with daily with self driving.

PACEMD · Oct 9, 2023

sleepydoc said:
Argh! I hope no one saw me talking to you!

I know, right? The cool kids are gonna disown you now.........

PACEMD · Oct 9, 2023

I personally don't think it makes much of a difference which line or version you are delegated to. As long as the windshield wipers don't work, that's all I care about. With messed up windshield wipers I will always have a legitimate something to complain about.........Panel gaps just ain't cutting it anymore..........

mirkop82 · Oct 9, 2023

PACEMD said:
I know, right? The cool kids are gonna disown you now.........

@sleepydoc, when are we having another beer with me and @PACEMD ?

WilliamG · Oct 9, 2023

JulienW said:
I have only driven in the rain once. The main problem is the dry wiping when the sun is shining and no rain.

Oh that's definitely not the main problem, though it's definitely a problem. The bigger problem is... well... see below...

sleepydoc · Oct 9, 2023

mirkop82 said:
@sleepydoc, when are we having another beer with me and @PACEMD ?

I’m going to be out in La Jolla this weekend - you guys can join me!

gforce2002 · Oct 9, 2023

WilliamG said:
Oh that's definitely not the main problem, though it's definitely a problem. The bigger problem is... well... see below...

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That problem is what's so bewildering to me. Sun in the cameras will get those things flapping like a panicked seagull, but rain on the windshield that surely must be obscuring the cameras' view gets no reaction. When I press the button to get them to wipe, that seems to "wake" them up and they gradually start to react more to the rain. It's so weird.

bayareaever · Oct 9, 2023

black knight 3 said:
HW3. 2022 model S

Interesting. I don’t think hw4 would matter one way or another (yet) but I’m on day 2 of some impressive fsdriving. Not perfect but the main improvement starting yesterday is gradual slowdowns/improved path planning. My navigation sw updated ~5 days ago but I didn’t see this improvement until yesterday. Others with hw4 have similar experience?

legendsk · Oct 9, 2023

If you don't have 11.4.7.2 - Congratulations, you have made better decisions than I did. I wish I had kept the hand held Garmin I had years ago.

aronth5 · Oct 9, 2023

fasteddie7 said:
After driving 11.4.7.2 around for a week on hardware 4 it’s pretty safe for me to say that there really hasn’t been much of an update to the actual self driving part. It seems the update is mostly for those quality of life updates like controlling the scroll wheel function and being able to move the window for the Blindspot to various places on the screen. It is neat to be able to see what the pillar cameras can see and it definitely sees more than I thought it could and that’s if the image isn’t cropped from what I can see on the display. I wish I could view it while driving although there’s not a whole Lotta traffic in my area so I was able to get a couple quick looks at some of the blind intersections that I have to come in contact with daily with self driving.

Agree the B-Pillar camera does show a lot until the intersection is obstructed and you cannot pull forward far enough for FSD to make a safe decision. Not many intersections have this dilemma but when they do FSD is basically just winging any decision it makes.

AlanSubie4Life · Oct 9, 2023

sleepydoc said:
ok - maybe I spoke too soon. Just took another drive and had a nice rocket launch from the stop light.

I’d love to see a video or at least some datapoints of speed vs time.

There are no rocket launches with FSDb unless you use the accelerator.

11.4.7.2 still does not support flashing red lights for disabled multi-lane intersections. Sad. Not sure how it is supposed to be helpful if it can’t handle simple situations.

I’m curious how it would have handled the light which I encountered at Pomerado Rd westbound at I-15 the other day (it was 6AM so still dark) which was completely disabled. I was just tooling along and then realized there was no light where there should be one. The car turning in front of me in the distance also alerted/reminded me. Definitely something FSD will need to handle flawlessly. Sadly (or maybe fortunately) I was not using it. Probably would have slowed down since it is using HD maps, that is what I have seen in the past, but hard to know for sure. As it was I slammed on the hazards for tailing traffic and came to a slightly faster stop than normal.

At this point FSDb is boring. It seems to have pretty much reached the asymptote at this point.

Madmolecule · Oct 10, 2023

With dojo just spinning up, and already eight times more expensive than the H100, I don’t think it will be our savior. A good video on full self driving cars and Elon. Without selling future tech, like FSD and the Tesla bot has been doing everything to try to keep Tesla from being evaluated as a car manufacturer. That’s all they are. Robotaxi It’s funny to hear the word now, dated silly fake tech like the cybertruck. Bulletproof windows, SpaceX stainless steel great range pulling a load, 40 K. The full self driving beta, is only safer not because it drives better, because it is a constant driver nag system. That is really all I felt I paid for my car to pester the crap out of me. Just a high priced nag

Dewg · Oct 10, 2023

Madmolecule said:
With dojo just spinning up, and already eight times more expensive than the H100, I don’t think it will be our savior. A good video on full self driving cars and Elon. Without selling future tech, like FSD and the Tesla bot has been doing everything to try to keep Tesla from being evaluated as a car manufacturer. That’s all they are. Robotaxi It’s funny to hear the word now, dated silly fake tech like the cybertruck. Bulletproof windows, SpaceX stainless steel great range pulling a load, 40 K

Even as a car company they are impressive. In a few short years they've displaced major companies like Toyota and BMW for best selling car, and their margins are significantly higher than the competition.

Madmolecule · Oct 10, 2023

Dewg said:
Even as a car company they are impressive. In a few short years they've displaced major companies like Toyota and BMW for best selling car, and their margins are significantly higher than the competition.

I agree, the vaporware and the belief of future functionality has really enhance Teslas bottom line. Also government subsidies, sucking on those tax credits. Elon stated very clearly in the video I posted if they don’t get full self driving working, Tesla is basically worthless. I guess the question is have they got it working and will they get it working? Mostly advances in reduce components, motor, reliability, battery, longevity, and no motor helping out your crash rating is common among all EVs. Tesla has full self driving and superchargers. The superchargers are being opened up, for government subsidies to be profitable gas stations for Teslas.

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