FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

saneryee-studio.medium.com

Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

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[TK211X]

I am really upset. I accidentally hit install from 11.3.6 after pausing the subscription to jump onto it from 11.4.4 and now I’m going back to it.

I hope next is 11.4.8.

If any Tesla engineer is reading this, please base 11.4.8 on 2023.26.11+ thx.

 

[uscbucsfan]

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I am really upset. I accidentally hit install from 11.3.6 after pausing the subscription to jump onto it from 11.4.4 and now I’m going back to it.

I hope next is 11.4.8.

If any Tesla engineer is reading this, please base 11.4.8 on 2023.26.11+ thx.

Why are you upset? You are getting 11.4.4. 11.4.7 is still 2023.7.30, so you may not have ever gotten 11.4.8.

 

[MarcG]

I’m back on 11.4.4 too (after going from 2023.7.20 to 2023.20.9 with FSD 11.3.6), but very happy to get the 2023.26 branch features - things as simple as a customizable scrollable wheel button make me happy

 

[TK211X]

Why are you upset? You are getting 11.4.4. 11.4.7 is still 2023.7.30, so you may not have ever gotten 11.4.8.

I was previously on 2023.7.X and 11.4.4 but jumped to 11.3.6 because it was better.

I was fully expecting them to skip 11.4.4 and go directly to a better version from 11.3.6.

11.4.4 does some random nut grab stuff.

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

So, what are the goodies in the 2023.26 branch? I want to feel left out, thanks!

 

[Buckminster]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1694925947873435803

 

[Mardak]

With 2023.7.30 / 11.4.7 pending count of 99 TeslaFi and 15 Teslascope (a mix of 11.4.4 and 11.4.6 so far), looks like it's going to some Safety Score people already! Approximately 2% rollout.

 

[Acisplat]

For people on 11.4.6, how big of an improvement was 11.4.6 compared to 11.4.4?

I've had my share of issues with 11.4.4, but I've seen a lot of user posts on social media about how the entire 11.4.x branch should be shelved because it's so terrible, but I never really ran into anything terrible that FSD hasn't already been doing since FSD 10.x

 

[Gwgan]

For people on 11.4.6, how big of an improvement was 11.4.6 compared to 11.4.4?

Same question. Updating now so I’ll find out soon. Mostly stopped using 11.4.4 except as highway cruise control and even then it would stay off after phantom braking.

 

[JulienW]

....looks like it's going to some Safety Score people already! Approximately 2% rollout.

What are "Safety Score people"? You have to live in a state with Tesla insurance and have Tesla insurance to get it?

Here is mine from Oct 21. Does this mean I'm a "Safety Score people"?

 

[danharr]

I just downloaded 11.4.7.
I'll give it a try later today, but I'm surprised- I must be one of the first. I repeatedly report on the same old problems during my regular drives, but they're never corrected for long. It would be great to discover they fixed that spot where there's a gentle curve in the road and my car slams on the brakes!

 

[Mardak]

What are "Safety Score people"?

Just to differentiate from the small group of people who got FSD Beta before Safety Score was introduced -- not that you need to have Safety Score now. More generally, 11.4.7 has already gone to a slightly larger rollout now ~2.5% than 11.4.6's ~1.5% rollout, so hopefully that indicates Tesla might be more confident of the new version's quality to expand rollout faster.

 

[PR0FESSOR]

I am installing 2023.7.30 right now on my 2023 Tesla Model S Plaid (HW4). I will report back when I start testing it.

Joe

 

[rlsd]

I am installing 2023.7.30 right now on my 2023 Tesla Model S Plaid (HW4). I will report back when I start testing it.

Joe

Please report back in 2 hours before my morning coffee.

 

[kabin]

Looks like some early mixed reviews on v11.4.7. Time will tell if it's mind sucking or blowing.

 

[FSDtester#1]

Looks like some early mixed reviews on v11.4.7. Time will tell if it's mind sucking or blowing.

The question is, show we go burn our daily software check??
Or just go outside and burn something else...

 

[uscbucsfan]

For people on 11.4.6, how big of an improvement was 11.4.6 compared to 11.4.4?

I've had my share of issues with 11.4.4, but I've seen a lot of user posts on social media about how the entire 11.4.x branch should be shelved because it's so terrible, but I never really ran into anything terrible that FSD hasn't already been doing since FSD 10.x

I thought it was a regression. It exhibited the same issue with turn/merge lanes and also the creep was broken where the car wants to jump out into busy intersections. M3P thought it was an improvement.

 

[uscbucsfan]

The question is, show we go burn our daily software check??
Or just go outside and burn something else...

That doesn't help you get it faster.

 

[jebinc]

Looks like some early mixed reviews on v11.4.7. Time will tell if it's mind sucking or blowing.

Don’t make me have to say it….

 

[Pdubs]

The question is, show we go burn our daily software check??
Or just go outside and burn something else...

Why go outside?