FSD Beta v11.x

mgs333 · Oct 21, 2023

fasteddie7 said:
It's supposed to rain again soon, I'll definitely do that. At the risk of sounding amateurish, what is an SO?

Significant other

plumazul · Oct 21, 2023

I bought FSD almost 7 years ago, I finally got my first chance to use it just last week, because my wife bought a new 3 that has a 3 month preview(11.4.4). I'm trying to convince them that they should leave it active on the 3 until such time as they deliver it on my S. I think the request is too sensible for them to accept. Tesla prefers the courts, SMH.
Anyway, my first drive (about 6 miles) included 5 accelerator presses (it really can't handle 4 way stops) , 3 disengagements(tried to make a couple illegal left turns), and a strange trip through a parking lot. After 7 years, I expected more.
Oh, the auto-wipers were going nuts. Had to disable the auto function.

aronth5 · Oct 21, 2023

plumazul said:
I bought FSD almost 7 years ago, I finally got my first chance to use it just last week, because my wife bought a new 3 that has a 3 month preview(11.4.4). I'm trying to convince them that they should leave it active on the 3 until such time as they deliver it on my S. I think the request is too sensible for them to accept. Tesla prefers the courts, SMH.
Anyway, my first drive (about 6 miles) included 5 accelerator presses (it really can't handle 4 way stops) , 3 disengagements(tried to make a couple illegal left turns), and a strange trip through a parking lot. After 7 years, I expected more.
Oh, the auto-wipers were going nuts. Had to disable the auto function.

Wait at least a week after varied FSD driving before you make a final judgement on how well or how poorly you believe FSD drives.

FSDtester#1 · Oct 21, 2023

fasteddie7 said:
It's supposed to rain again soon, I'll definitely do that. At the risk of sounding amateurish, what is an SO?

Someone already answered, but it never hurts to have a pretty girl in some of your videos!!
Us old ugly guys seem to not stop watching....

FSDtester#1 · Oct 21, 2023

aronth5 said:
Wait at least a week after varied FSD driving before you make a final judgement on how well or how poorly you believe FSD drives.

Yes and Highways are pretty good. It does make it easier for long trips.
You are just babysitting the car, which for me is less stressful than driving.

FSDtester#1 · Oct 21, 2023

jebinc said:
To be frank, I would have bet money that the S/X would have been worst - as Tesla optimizes for the volume models. I can not imagine the Y version being, “worse” than the junk running in the refreshed model S.

The biggest non fsd difference is the regen. MY has way stronger regen then the S... wtf are they thinking? S owners don't even have the option to turn it on or off or make it stronger. Why would we not have the option for heavy regen????

Gwgan · Oct 21, 2023

How is it that FSD can operate without a navigation plan? Why is that a thing?

drtimhill · Oct 21, 2023

Gwgan said:
How is it that FSD can operate without a navigation plan? Why is that a thing?

why not?

LowlyOilBurner · Oct 21, 2023

Got 11.4.7.3 yesterday morning, drove 367 miles on it to Mt Kisco delivery center to trade in my Y on a 23 Y LR AWD. Wipers still goofy, it did drive pretty well, lots of on and off heavy rain, so a lot of “degraded performance”, and speed limited due to weather.

Drove another 367 miles home on 11.4.4 in the new car. Before the cameras were fully calibrated (about 72miles from Mt Kisco), I hit a deer, FSD was available when I pulled over to check the damage out. Pretty bad, but car drove fine, so I filed an insurance claim, accident report, and kept driving home. 11.4.4 did well, wipers were still a little goofy on 11.4.4 (2023.32.9). Way less phantom braking than 11.4.7.2/3. The matrix headlights are an improvement over the reflectors, even though mine are all fvcked up and one is pointing at the ground, lol.

Just got to get the car fixed now. Oh well.

MP3Mike · Oct 21, 2023

The only difference I saw between 11.4.7.2 and 11.4.7.3 is that they relaxed the hands-on steering wheel nag, back to almost where it was prior to 11.4.7.2.

sleepydoc · Oct 21, 2023

jabloomf1230 said:
I feel uncomfortable defending the Tesla rain sensing approach because the IR source-sensor pair works so well for sensing rain in other brands of cars.

However, the Tesla approach probably could be made to work better. As the windshield becomes covered with droplets of rain, the front camera's vision becomes blurred, unlike the quoted sports analogy above. The Tesla approach attempts to adjust wiper speed based by comparing changes between successive front camera video frames. That all sounds good on paper, but in practice it has worked poorly.

It’s never been great but it’s definitely been better than it is now.

fasteddie7 · Oct 21, 2023

MP3Mike said:
The only difference I saw between 11.4.7.2 and 11.4.7.3 is that they relaxed the hands-on steering wheel nag, back to almost where it was prior to 11.4.7.2.

I’ve been able to completely eliminate the nag on 11.4.7.2. I haven’t got 11.4.7.3 yet, hopefully the same hand placement works

LowlyOilBurner · Oct 21, 2023

In regards to the wiper function, is anyone using RainX on their windshield? Perhaps this has something to do or not with the wiper function?

maddogs · Oct 21, 2023

My favorite is when it's raining, FSD says, degraded by weather, but auto wipers do not go off. I think the two functions are not interconnected.

CarbonPear · Oct 21, 2023

Hi everyone,

I’m considering a Tesla again and have been primarily waiting for Phantom Braking to go away (mainly on the highways). From what I can tell, it’s significantly better using FSD 11.7.4.3 than the standard, non FSD stack. Is this correct?

How is phantom braking on long road trips now and what does it feel like? Have any major incidents happened to you while on FSD code using Autopilot/TACC on the freeway?

maddogs · Oct 21, 2023

CarbonPear said:
Hi everyone,

I’m considering a Tesla again and have been primarily waiting for Phantom Braking to go away (mainly on the highways). From what I can tell, it’s significantly better using FSD 11.7.4.3 than the standard, non FSD stack. Is this correct?

How is phantom braking on long road trips now and what does it feel like? Have any major incidents happened to you while on FSD code using Autopilot/TACC on the freeway?

I just finished a 3500+ mile trip with my Model Y. FSD did the majority of the driving, and I think phantom breaking occured twice, very quick instances.

CarbonPear · Oct 21, 2023

maddogs said:
I just finished a 3500+ mile trip with my Model Y. FSD did the majority of the driving, and I think phantom breaking occured twice, very quick instances.

How severe were they?

maddogs · Oct 21, 2023

CarbonPear said:
How severe were they?

It is hard to say, the surprise made it feel .ore severe than it actually was. You could feel the juice petal come off, but I don't think there was any actual brake applied. It took longer to react than it lasted

FSDtester#1 · Oct 21, 2023

fasteddie7 said:
I’ve been able to completely eliminate the nag on 11.4.7.2. I haven’t got 11.4.7.3 yet, hopefully the same hand placement works

When you say eliminate, what is your hand placement?

FSDtester#1 · Oct 21, 2023

CarbonPear said:
How severe were they?

Phantom braking still occurs, way more during city driving. For me it's not actually braking, just a quick regen slow down of 1 to 5 mph.
All my highway slow downs seem map related, since they are always in the same spot.

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