FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

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Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

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[Tronguy]

I must have gotten off the naughty list. After re-installing FSD 11.4.7.3 two hours ago, I just got a notice that 2023.44.30.6 (FSD 11.4.9) is available for download.

Thanks Elon for the Holiday update!

Interestingly, I was near dead last to get 2023.44.30.2; I just got 2023.44.30.5.1 tonight. Over at Teslafi, there's a seriously large number of people getting moved onto both 6.1 and 5.1 tonight.

 

[kabin]

Maybe this was the cause?

 

[jebinc]

Indeed. Which makes it all the more hilarious when people say that rebooting the car after an update is recommended. Like… wtf.

Have you received the update?

 

[Dracaris]

The app for my car was showing "Install 2023.44.30.6" but when I said "Go!" via that app, it said "schedule software update failed." So I went to the car, verified that it was connected to WiFi, and started the update from there. First time I've ever had to try that. Looks like that approach may have worked. We'll see how it goes. Hoping they didn't push it out so hard that their servers start falling over in the middle of the update.

FYI, our car has been on 2023.27.7 and the associated FSD version for that release since September when we bought the car.

 

[WilliamG]

Have you received the update?

Naaaaaa.

 

[sleepydoc]

Maybe this was the cause?

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That would definitely explain it. and also explain the relatively quick fix.

 

[Twiglett]

The last time I got this many updates this quickly was going from FSD 10.3 to 10.3.1 then 10.4
That was because 10.3 was so terrible.
I didn’t think 11.4.9 was that bad, but the switch from 2023.44.30.2 to 44.30.5.1 seems to have remedied my AC issues, so who knows.

 

[Twiglett]

Maybe this was the cause?

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Not sure, but I’m sure 44.30.2 frazzled my AC that 44.30.5.1 seems to have resolved
This last update included a bunch of ECU updates

 

[WilliamG]

I’ve been using the high fidelity park assist on a rental Model 3, and it’s actually pretty cool. Dunno how well this would work in the rain, but I’m pleased so far. I think it can be improved, but no doubt it could be very useful for those pesky parking concrete things low down that USS can’t deal with etc.

 

[RSpanner]

Indeed. Which makes it all the more hilarious when people say that rebooting the car after an update is recommended. Like… wtf.

Right after..and I mean within a few minutes...nothing would work in our car after the latest update. The only thing I could do is reboot..and it worked..Just dumb luck? ir a coincidental moment...

 

[Ramphex]

Installing 2023.44.30.5.1 on FSDj Model S. Installed that same software on Non-FSD Model Y earlier tonight. So the softwares are either merged or I got the boot. Either way I’m installing it because the J is dog shiet

 

[Dracaris]

The app for my car was showing "Install 2023.44.30.6" but when I said "Go!" via that app, it said "schedule software update failed." So I went to the car, verified that it was connected to WiFi, and started the update from there. First time I've ever had to try that. Looks like that approach may have worked. We'll see how it goes. Hoping they didn't push it out so hard that their servers start falling over in the middle of the update.

FYI, our car has been on 2023.27.7 and the associated FSD version for that release since September when we bought the car.

The update appears to have worked. We'll see how it behaves when we drive it tomorrow.

 

[Ramphex]

.6 installing on my Model Y, HW4 now. I stopped using FSD today it was so bad so we'll see what happens tomorrow. I'm going to do a full power cycle after the upgrade to see if that has any affect.

Lol, it was bad today. That’s funny, because it was never not bad for me in 2021 MS

 

[Ramphex]

I must have gotten off the naughty list. After re-installing FSD 11.4.7.3 two hours ago, I just got a notice that 2023.44.30.6 (FSD 11.4.9) is available for download.

Thanks Elon for the Holiday update!

Thanks for what? Is there a changelog for this? My release notes just say “minor fixes”.

 

[Dewg]

Is 30.6 for HW4 and 30.5.1 for HW3?

 

[WilliamG]

Is 30.6 for HW4 and 30.5.1 for HW3?

Seems like it. Just got 30.5.1 pushed to my 2022 HW3/USS Plaid. And of course, I’m not around to drive it for a few days. Such is life! Thanks, Elon!

 

[swedge]

Seems like it. Just got 30.5.1 pushed to my 2022 HW3/USS Plaid. And of course, I’m not around to drive it for a few days. Such is life! Thanks, Elon!

Congratulations!

Better than a lump of coal delivered by Amazon! ;-) (i.e. a fossil fuel delivered by a gas or diesel powered van)

Merry "X"mas!

 

[Mardak]

From the installations of these latest 2 versions of 11.4.9 on TeslaFi, the hardware differentiator seems to be landscape display without HW4 get .5:

• S HW3 (2021-2023)
• X HW3 (2022-2023)
• 3 HW2.5-3 (2017-2023)
• Y HW3 (2020-2024)

Almost all others get .6:

• S HW0-3 (2014-2021)
• S HW4 (2023)
• X HW1-3 (2016-2021)
• X HW4 (2023)
• 3 HW4 (2024)
• Y HW4 (2023)

 

[bhakan]

Have you received the update?

I was waiting and did not get it either. But as I was refreshing the app ( the cat jumped and knocked my phone) I noticed the SW update and downloading it. I never knew I was naughty . I am not driving the car at 5 am now. You may be getting yours too.

 

[bhakan]

Thanks for what? Is there a changelog for this? My release notes just say “minor fixes”.

Yeah. It just notifies that it's minor fixes.