At one point in this video, the car enters a school zone with flashing lights. It's hard to make out the speed limit, but Google Maps shows it clearly as 20 mph. The car did not comply with this and Rebellionaire appeared too distracted talking to his rider to notice that he sped through the zone at 30 mph.
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FSD v12.x (end to end AI)
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- #fixphantombraking autopilot chill is not chill elon is an ass fix fsd extreme late deceleration fsd does not commit to go fsd does not maintain proper speed fsd hard and late braking fsd jerky driving fsd late deceleration fsd stops too early too quickly fsd stops too far behind line fsd tailgating in city streets
Really pisses me off that the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many with FSD Beta - in other words, a few bad apples ruin it for the rest of us who are using the system as intended - paying close attention, reporting disengagements, testing routes, etc. Cabin camera covers, wheel weights, s3xy buttons, but when they get in an accident their statement to the press will be "AP/FSD was in control of the car!!! It's not my fault!!!" - sigh...
12.2.1 trained on too much human behavior or not enough training of stop signs in the middle of the road?
Pretty sure 11.x would have correctly stopped, so it'll be trickier to improve end-to-end without disengagements from 11.x or 12.x. Hopefully with wider 12.x rollout, there will be more examples of people taking over to correct the behavior.
Pretty sure 11.x would have correctly stopped, so it'll be trickier to improve end-to-end without disengagements from 11.x or 12.x. Hopefully with wider 12.x rollout, there will be more examples of people taking over to correct the behavior.
Was he distracted, or is that just the speed he would normally drive through that area?
People obey the speed limits in your area? Almost everyone here goes a minimum of 9 MPH over the speed limit. So yeah, traffic here would only be going 29 MPH through the school zone. (I have to set my offset to 23% to have any chance of FSDb not impeding traffic.)
Those who have FSDb already can do it already. V11 vs V12 should not matter other than publicity.
I understand and agree on all counts but those who have FSDb already can do all these already. V11 vs V12 should not matter other than publicity.
The point is that FSD 12.2.1 ignored the school zone. I would hope that the intent was not to violate the speed limit by 50%!
BTW, Rebellionaire stated at the beginning of the video that this was the first time he had driven through downtown Dallas.
The main point is bitc$ing here is rhetorical at best. However we KNOW that Tesla ALWAYS limits the number of people who get early releases to test for safety/bugs. In my (worthless) opinion they did "screw up" (and Tesla doesn't care about my opinion either) by releasing to new/random people first but that is now water under...... So there is nothing we can do except wait until Tesla believes v12 is proven safe/bug free enough to release wider. Tesla doesn't give a $hit what I (or you) think they should or could do.
I'm not convinced that sign was for vehicles. Looked like it was supposed alert pedestrians that the crosswalk was closed and someone moved it.
Especially since that was a T with only a blinking red for the cross road versus the signaled intersection before and after.
gottagofast
2022 Model 3 Performance
Very few. None on TeslaFi yet.
I don't think it has even gone that far yet. It is likely almost exclusively employees right now.
TeslaScope has reported they expect a quicker and larger rollout for 12.3 than 12.2.x so let's hope a lot more of us get V12.3 soon.
willow_hiller
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Had a quick scan through. Appeared to be zero disengagement, but also a significant amount of time on the highway (which may still be V11, not sure how we'll tell when it transitions to single stack).
Also, not sure if there's anything to be learned from a single drive, but in a large parking lot, V12.3 did choose to stop without attempting to park and a "Autopilot navigation is complete" message. Maybe they clipped all of the parking examples out of the training set.
powertoold
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I cannot believe that FSD adas is going to be solved this year.
It only took an end to end system with human level smoothness and naturalness.
It only took an end to end system with human level smoothness and naturalness.
It's not.
powertoold
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I encountered this exact issue (stop signs on A-frames) with a broken traffic light at a large intersection. It didn't seem like 12.2.1 would stop, so I disengaged and stopped myself.
powertoold
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Here's why 12.3 should arguably be V13: the worm is alive!!! It may be a way to reduce the wheel turns during decision wobbles
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
Why do you say that? I've had 11.4.9 blow right through (or start to) well-marked, normally-placed stop signs with regular visibility in 20 MPH speed limit neighborhoods.
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