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Ionity was paid for by a bunch of manufacturers much like the supercharger network was by Tesla.
So if instead of Ionity they had called them "VW/BMW/Merc" I think we might be a more charitable to the network. Some like to be critical of their pricing model but the reality is whatever they charge it is still better than being refused because you have the wrong make of car which is what Tesla do.
So if instead of Ionity they had called them "VW/BMW/Merc" I think we might be a more charitable to the network. Some like to be critical of their pricing model but the reality is whatever they charge it is still better than being refused because you have the wrong make of car which is what Tesla do.
Alex987854
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They did. 20%
Ionity secures funding for EUROP-E charging network - electrive.com
If anyone wants to contact the EU committee to complain, here's the email.
[email protected]
I did.....a few weeks back. The more people write the better. Particularly given the market failure (the Maingau eMSP model is now proven to be broken).
5 people CC’d on this reply. Look like the EU have a watching brief. More than can be said for the CMA ([email protected])
The UK Government appear uninterested that a German company in receipt of public funds / EU state aid is given a monopoly to rob the public blind.
DfT next on my list.
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5 people CC’d on this reply. Look like the EU have a watching brief. More than can be said for the CMA ([email protected])
The UK Government appear uninterested that a German company in receipt of public funds / EU state aid is given a monopoly to rob the public blind.
DfT next on my list.
LongRanger
Active Member
It’s a tough one. The Tesla driver in me says hell no! The shareholder in me says no (damages USP).
...but I ask myself will every car I buy in the next 15 years be a Tesla? Maybe not if the quality doesn’t improve or others catch up.
I’d rather have open competition to keep prices fair and convenient access to chargers. What would you say if Tesla suddenly hiked to 50p/kWh for Tesla owners too? Currently nothing to stop them.
...but I ask myself will every car I buy in the next 15 years be a Tesla? Maybe not if the quality doesn’t improve or others catch up.
I’d rather have open competition to keep prices fair and convenient access to chargers. What would you say if Tesla suddenly hiked to 50p/kWh for Tesla owners too? Currently nothing to stop them.
Not that I know of, but there is another angle to consider: PIGC x 20,000? cars = £70m
Fully accept all car manufacturers have the same opportunity to claim PICG as Tesla.
Drew57
Active ember
A significant Tesla USP is the Supercharger network.
Open it up for all EVs and how many current (frustrated) Tesla drivers would then look at another brand?
It's keeping a lot of people loyal during the period where Tesla focus more on volume than quality or customer care.
pdk42
Active Member
The only way to sort out the charging mess is via government. No-one else has the leverage. The whole thing needs regulating and investment otherwise we'll have ICE cars forever.
I expect most company car leases for ID.3 will include a subscription as part of the package.
And how much was that compared to how much they've bunged Musk for his factory in Germany, how much do Tesla get through emitions trading, how many cars has he sold with several grand of tax payers money subsidising them, etc? The point is still the same, its a manufacturers network with access to other makes
They'll be fine with the brands that invest in them, and if I was an owner of one of those cars, the last thing I'd want is some Tesla owner using the charger at the same cost rate if I needed to charge having not contributed at all to the deployment costs
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